Obama-Alinsky goons coming to a Catholic Church near you!

Red Dirt Report ^ | 08/18/09 | Red Dirt Report

[Always Right]

Just think what Obamacare will do to Catholic Hospitals....something no one is talking about... Separation of Church and Health Care

[DuncanWaring]

Another group that’s forgotten “Thou shalt not steal” and “Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor’s goods”.

[Kansas58]

Go to the parish priest and complain.

Go to the Bishop and complain.

Educate them.

Let them know that they are being used!

I was a sponsor at an RCIA meeting once, where the talk was way too tilted to “social justice” SOCIALISM, and I argued with the Priest, and told him he was wrong.

I talked about “Subsidiarity” and explained that charity must be voluntary, and that individual responsibility should be encouraged, and that the true teaching of the Church was that the social unit closest to the problem, and most able to address the problem should be in charge of the problem

[a fool in paradise]

But upon closer inspection, it appears to be further attempts by ACORN-esque organizers to infiltrate well-meaning parishioners in the Catholic Church in the Oklahoma City area, among other places. The flyer reads: “Come to a special training in community organizing for Catholic parishes, presented by Oklahoma Sponsoring Committee and hosted by Our Lady of Perpetual Help parish.”

A nice encroachment by the State (or activists on behalf of Statism) on the Church. The ACLU must be out of town that day.

[G Larry]

Hope they’re dumb enough to try this in Denver!

I will continue to make time to oppose the spread of “liberation theology” wherever it shows up!
We will NOT stand for the anti-Life crowd pretending that giving everybody an insurance card is a sign of compassion!

[Talisker]

I talked about “Subsidiarity” and explained that charity must be voluntary, and that individual responsibility should be encouraged, and that the true teaching of the Church was that the social unit closest to the problem, and most able to address the problem should be in charge of the problem

Thanks for the term. I didn't know the Catholic Church regarded this concept as applicable doctrine. What did the Priest reply to you?

[OB1kNOb]

Obamabots......hosted by Our Lady of Perpetual Help.....

You can't make this stuff up.

[CdMGuy]

You should thank God every day that your archdiocese has been blessed with Archbishop Charles Chaput. I was in Denver for a Bible conference at St. Thomas More Church in June. The vibrancy of the Catholic Church in Denver is amazing and inspiring.

[Kansas58]

The Priest was clueless.
He admitted that Subsidiarity was still doctrine, yet he did not understand how his support for outright socialism, and his advocacy of “social justice” was not in keeping with the doctrine of Subsidiarity.

I later mailed him a bunch of Catholic literature in support of my view that it is “impossible to be, at the same time, a true Catholic and a Socialist”

[Talisker]

The Priest was clueless. He admitted that Subsidiarity was still doctrine, yet he did not understand how his support for outright socialism, and his advocacy of “social justice” was not in keeping with the doctrine of Subsidiarity.

LOL. That "voluntary" thing really gets them, don't it? They love the "let's all work together" shtick, because they think it morally justifies their total dominating control of everyone. But if you agree to the flowers and candy and rainbows and chocolate, yet add in that one word - voluntary - they act like you hit them in the head with a 2x4.

IMO, their response reveals their true intentions. Liberals get confused, because they're focused on all the goodies like the useful idiots they really are. But Leftists get pissed, because you've revealed the totalitarian behind the curtain.

[bgill]

The 911 terrorists had associations with OU. Nick Berg, the guy who was beheaded was from OU and let’s not foget his father is with MoveOn.org and ANSWER. And then there was the suicide bomber who blew himself up outside the OU stadium. Anyone not surprised these “community organizers” have targeted Oklahoma City?

[Coldwater Creek]

Mark couldn’t have said this today, Tuesday. He doesn’t even come on until 5 CDT.

[Osage Orange]

Good post..........

[Osage Orange]

Did you notice when the meeting was?

Aug. 8th........

[pikachu]

The best action is to tell the clergy involved from parish priest to bishop that you will a) not be giving money to the Catholic Church, b) will encourage others not to give to the church, c) call those who advertise in the church’s publications that they will no longer be favored with your money, d) that you change your will to remove any donation to the church, and e) (optional) you will let the Vatican know the above.

Money talks with the Catholic church and you know everything else walks.

[backhoe]

 

[oklahomaconservative]

Hi all,
I received a tip from someone who goes to St. Eugene in Oklahoma City. She explained to me that her church was going to follow the course of other churches in the area and that she needs help figuring out what to do.

In terms of Mark Shannon, the material mentioned in the article and much more are posted on his own blog.

[AnotherConcernedCatholic]

Catholics should not be listening to Mark Shannon or aligning themselves with him. He apparently stated on air after hanging up on a priest that the church condoned pedophiles, and last Thursday or Friday he called people receiving welfare “parasites”. (Jesus would've called them human beings.) He also said that children living in homes receiving government assistance should be removed and placed in “orphanages” or up for adoption. Does he not know that 85.5% of Oklahoma City school children live in poverty? (That's according to a 2/2009 report from Sandy Garrett.) So let's get this straight - the government shouldn't be trusted with health care, but we can have them raise people's kids?

And then suggesting that people with-old their tithe - that would be called “extortion” - and the Catechism has a little bit about that, too. He's an embarassment to conservatives like myself.

Oklahomaconservative got it right with “the social unit closest to the problem, and most able to address the problem should be in charge of the problem”. Who's closer to the problem than your church community? That's what the Oklahoma Sponsoring Committee is doing - each church is going to have as many of its members as possible meeting in small groups to talk about pressures their families face. Then, we'll all come together, find a common theme, figure out what we can do and then act. It's called citizenship, and we only intend on tackling LOCAL ISSUES. This isn't like ACORN that (from what I can tell) pushes a national agenda - we only intend on covering local issues that we as Oklahomans decide for ourselves.

It's quite unlikely you'll see us push for more taxes or bigger government because most Oklahomans don't want that.

As far as the IAF is concerned, we've essentially hired them as consultants to train us. The IAF founder, Saul Alinsky, was pretty radical, but he's been dead for 35+ years and the organization was reshaped after his passing. The IAF works with churches all over the U.S. and you'll only find positive stories if you look at their affiliate sites.

I hope this is helpful in explaining what's going on.

[Yosemitest]

This applies!!!

For such are false apostles, deceitful workers,
transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
And no marvel;
for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Therefore it is no great thing
if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness;
whose end shall be according to their works.