[Yorlik803]

The Officer corp may be loyal to the government, but the average groundpounder wont be so loyal when ordered to arrest fellow citizens. You may find a few nazi-type soldiers who will do so without thinking, but the vast majority wont.
That is why Obama wants his own Waffen SS type units, Separated from the military, they will be loyal to the creator Obama. They will be recruited from gangs, ACORN, prisons, given a uniform and some power to take from those they feel like. Once given the taste of authority, they will become empowered and never want to give it up. That is the real threat. Imagine waking up one night and finding some thugs you once called the police on breaking in your doors, terrorizing loved one and hauling you to prison of some camp.
A while ago if you would have told me this was possible, I would dismiss you as a crackpot. Now we all feel the threat from this president and his cronies is a real one.

[2ndDivisionVet]

I see the “Civilian National Security Forces” catching an epidemic of lead poisoning in cases like that. How do you confiscate half a billion guns?

[RightCenter]

then he’ll just use northern troops against the south and vice versa, and heartland troops against the coasties, and vice versa. plus he has UAVs, an air force, and tear gas. Lead can’t stand up to that!