That’s the problem with discussing the issues with them: their focus is getting SOMETHING, ANYTHING, huge passed ASAP, and if “discussing” it allays your fears, and if “adjusting” terminology garners your support, they’ll do it - despite the fact that the core axiom is absolutely anathema to our values.
We need to make clear we don’t want to “discuss” it (well, they don’t want to either, they just want to ram it down our throats), we DON’T WANT IT in any form.
Why can’t they just work on real tort reform and actually fix a majority of the problem and then get rid of the illegal aliens and get rid of 90% of the rest of the problem. I mean, seriously, how hard can it be to actually do the right thing instead of the political power-grab thing?