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Glenn Beck Exposes 'Cash for Clunkers' Language Giving Feds Authority to Take Control of Computers
Newsbusters.org ^ | 7-31-09 | Jeff Poor

Posted on 08/01/2009 11:26:45 AM PDT by Justaham

"A warning box comes up, and it says, ‘This application provides to the DoT CARS system. When logged on to the CARS system, your computer is considered a federal computer system and it is property of the United States government,'" Beck read. "‘Any and all uses of this system and all files on this system may be intercepted, monitored, recorded, copied, audited, inspected, and disclosed to authorized CARS, DoT and law enforcement personnel, as well as authorized officials of other agencies, both domestic and foreign.'"

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: bhodot; bigbrother; clunkers; conspiracytheory; crackpottery; foxnews; glennbeck; woowoo
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To: potlatch

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I cannot imagine getting in one of those those DINKY toys and driving out onto public roads

All the hysterical BS from the fed safety NAZIS years ago and now they squeeze you into a self-compressing coffin on wheels


21 posted on 08/01/2009 3:04:16 PM PDT by devolve (- - When you're out of beer you're out of luck - -)
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To: devolve

I haven’t read up on these Smart Cars. Are they made of plastic or metal? Doesn’t much matter as tiny as they are.


22 posted on 08/01/2009 3:06:30 PM PDT by potlatch ( There is no education in the second kick of a mule.)
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To: PLMerite
"Any and all uses of this system and all files on this system may be intercepted, monitored, recorded, copied, audited, inspected, and disclosed to authorized CARS, DoT and law enforcement personnel, as well as authorized officials of other agencies, both domestic and foreign."

There's nothing standard about this in a free society. Dealers are forced to take part in a government program, then stripped of all privacy rights when they do it.

The fed has no more right to a private dealer's computer than it has to yours or mine. It's scary the number of people willing to accept such an intrusion simply because it's happening to someone other than themselves ("first they came for the car dealers, but I wasn't a car dealer, so I did nothing...").

But then, I guess that's why America finds itself in its current predicament.

23 posted on 08/01/2009 3:25:29 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: Justaham

Just use your library’s computers. They’d like to browse something other than gay porn anyway.


24 posted on 08/01/2009 3:26:42 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: davisfh

It’s the idea. The principle - sounds like something out of 1984.


25 posted on 08/01/2009 3:27:26 PM PDT by GOPJ (Destroy cars to stop nonexistant global warming & tax citizens $4,500 each time? Crazy.)
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To: potlatch

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Feds made a big deal about requiring cars to be deigned with crushable areas to absorb impacts and mandatory airbags

The Smartcar and all the tiny DINKY toys have very little distance between bumpers and the driver &/or passengers

So the crushable area is severely limited and you and the steering wheel, dashboard, and engine become one in crashes or impacts that would often do very little damage to a medium sized car or PU
Fractions of seconds as the vehicle absorbs energy after the initial contact are what determines if you live or die

When you venture into the magic land of the 18 wheelers you must wear your finest armor and use your experience and brains

A racecar constructed of a carbonfiber body-frame is 10 times stringer than steel and is lighter than magnesium or aluminum

That is why the drivers of Formula 1 and LeMans series type racecars can survive a wreck at over 180mph
The NASCAR cars now are designed with an internal safety tub around the driver within the body


26 posted on 08/01/2009 3:30:17 PM PDT by devolve (- - When you're out of beer you're out of luck - -)
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To: devolve

Graphite cars, huh? My son in law was killed in his fancy sportscar. Hit a tree and burst into fire as it had what I call a ‘plastic body’.


27 posted on 08/01/2009 3:37:53 PM PDT by potlatch ( There is no education in the second kick of a mule.)
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To: 3niner

F-Disk FTW!


28 posted on 08/01/2009 3:39:09 PM PDT by Danae (I AM JIM THOMPSON - Conservative does not equal Republican. Conservative does not compromise.)
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To: potlatch

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Carbonfiber bodies are stronger than steel, aluminum, or fiberglass

Safer in crashes, better power/acceleration, better gas mileage

Downside: Big Bucks and only on exotic sportscars and racecars


29 posted on 08/01/2009 4:20:53 PM PDT by devolve (- - When you're out of beer you're out of luck - -)
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To: potlatch


COME FLY WITH MEEEEEEEEEEEE


30 posted on 08/01/2009 4:37:14 PM PDT by devolve (- - When you're out of beer you're out of luck - -)
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To: devolve
Lol, always amazing to watch that. I told you that only the left one fourth of those cars are colliding. Imagine a full frontal or rear end hit!
31 posted on 08/01/2009 4:52:34 PM PDT by potlatch ( There is no education in the second kick of a mule.)
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To: devolve

Randy’s Corvette had the fiberglass body.


32 posted on 08/01/2009 4:55:13 PM PDT by potlatch ( There is no education in the second kick of a mule.)
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To: potlatch

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A sledgehammer against an egg

Notice you never see the results on TV News of the physical injuries to the people in the DINKY cars


33 posted on 08/01/2009 4:58:10 PM PDT by devolve (- - When you're out of beer you're out of luck - -)
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To: devolve

Oh I know! Recall the one I posted much earlier, I think they would just have to ‘bury the whole car’!! Gruesome comment but if you look at it you know what I mean.


34 posted on 08/01/2009 5:03:11 PM PDT by potlatch ( There is no education in the second kick of a mule.)
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To: potlatch

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Yes - I know

Stock fiberglass body panels often shear whereas steel body panels will crumple or crush

Racing cars also have welded tube safety frames that are designed with safety factors to withstand incredible impacts or rollovers

In TV footage the bodies and wheels and engines may be seen to fly randomly - but the drivers will usually survive with little or no injuries

The best safety tips are learn high performance driving skills, prepare your vehicle so that it exceeds factory designs, always have situational awareness, and to keep lots of air around your vehicle

The last two are often the most important


35 posted on 08/01/2009 5:14:31 PM PDT by devolve (- - When you're out of beer you're out of luck - -)
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To: devolve

[keep lots of air around your vehicle]

THAT is the most frightening part when I’m traveling on a highway going 70MPH and there are cars and semi’s surrounding me.

I once drove over the Lake Charles bridge in Louisiana at night in driving rain and had 18 wheelers on each side of me. All I could do was watch the white lines on the road and keep in my lane. It was scary.


36 posted on 08/01/2009 5:20:43 PM PDT by potlatch ( There is no education in the second kick of a mule.)
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To: potlatch

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I either zip past everyone or actually pull over and let the crazies go on ahead

Worst experience was crossing the Tappan Zee Bridge in high winds with a hurricane in the area - driving a rental moving truck for a friend

It was a Ford with several years on it (rare for most rental trucks) that was poorly maintained - the steering box was worn and not properly adjusted - a box truck or van on a windy day can be a thrill on a highway - but on a bridge with winds approaching gale velocity - death on wheels - even with competitive experience

No place to pull over, no place to stop - reduce speed as much as possible and wave everyone past

If you have a problem - be driving as slow as possible when you impact or have side contact

The old myth of “never brake on a curve” is for amateurs - racedrivers use the brake while keeping a foot on the gas on curves

If an accident is unavoidable - be going as slow as possible and do not add velocity to mass

Driving in heavy fog on a highway is another thrill - I recall driving a long distance back from a funeral one night

Then pulling over to the shoulder on a highway invites somebody to drive through the back of your vehicle

There is a section of road in Western NC headed towards TN that has huge signs warning of bad fog - it is a killer section to drive


37 posted on 08/01/2009 5:43:05 PM PDT by devolve (- - When you're out of beer you're out of luck - -)
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To: GOPJ
"It’s the idea. The principle - sounds like something out of 1984."

I don't disagree with you at all. It does sound like something out of "1984" and, if the government is permitted to continue on its present course, we won't even have to visit the website to be tagged. Fact of the matter is that that is probably happening already. So, with that in mind, we might be wise to temper our comments and limit our revelations accordingly.

38 posted on 08/01/2009 5:45:55 PM PDT by davisfh ( Islam is a very serious mental illness)
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To: devolve
I was blocked in in my instance and the rainstorm and two 18 wheelers created quite a draft. Lol, I was in the ‘wind tunnel’.

We also get some heavy fog down here at times. We all have a number of scary driving experiences.

39 posted on 08/01/2009 5:54:19 PM PDT by potlatch ( There is no education in the second kick of a mule.)
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To: davisfh
So, with that in mind, we might be wise to temper our comments and limit our revelations accordingly.

Nope - with budding young totalitarians you stand up to them and mock them. It's the only way to stay free. That said - those of us who are older and have raised our families can pick up that task. I love to give the finger to totalitarians. It's a joy. On the other hand, younger freepers might want to be a little cautious. These are strange times.

40 posted on 08/01/2009 6:01:41 PM PDT by GOPJ (Destroy cars to stop nonexistant global warming & tax citizens $4,500 each time? Crazy.)
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