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To: ckilmer

What if a long form birth certificate doesn’t exist for a person who is otherwise qualified? I am an American citizen born and raised in this country. When I joined the Marine Corps I didn’t have a birth certificate. I contacted the state I was born in (Oregon) and they sent me the certificate of live birth because according to them the original no longer existed. The Marine Corps was fine with what I had.


10 posted on 07/31/2009 12:39:57 PM PDT by Sticky
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To: Sticky
What if a long form birth certificate doesn’t exist for a person who is otherwise qualified?

Then they'd just have to settle for not becoming President, like almost everybody else. It's not like we have a shortage of @$$h*les who want to be President.

15 posted on 07/31/2009 12:58:47 PM PDT by 3niner (When Obama succeeds, America fails.)
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To: Sticky

USMC did not require you to be a Natural Born citizen, now did they?

Actually they didn’t even require you to be a citizen!


19 posted on 07/31/2009 2:05:52 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (Kenya? Kenya? Kenya just show us the birth certificate?)
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To: Sticky
Sticky: Member since 7-31-2009.

Hm?....Interesting.

Sticky, I suspect that some of the recent posters defending Obama actually get paid to do this.

23 posted on 07/31/2009 2:27:23 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: Sticky; 3niner
What if a long form birth certificate doesn’t exist for a person who is otherwise qualified?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

They would present the high quality evidence presented by previous presidents.

The evidence would be **self-evident**! U.S. citizens would be more than available to stand forward and **testify** before God that they knew the mother and father well, that they visited the mom and newborn at home or in the hospital, that they brought meals over to the new family, attended the christening, and witnessed the newborn grow to adulthood.

I am 62 years old and there are still friends, neighbors, and relatives who could testify before God of my origins. The testimony of citizens is the **highest** quality evidence possible. Where are the friends, neighbors, and relatives in Obama’s life?

Oh?...I see. Obama doesn't have any citizens to testify before God to vouch for his natural born status.

OK...Then Obama can present a **lesser** form of evidence. He can produce a long form birth certificate, marriage and divorce papers of his parents, passports, repatriation oaths, secret service records, driver licenses, social security applications, and adoption records if there are any. He can explain how he managed to attend school in Indonesia, who paid for his college expenses, and show scholarship and college admission records.

But...I really feel sorry in a way for Obama. I have never met anyone so disconnected from his early family, friends, relatives, and neighbors. It's as if he were Mork from Ork.

27 posted on 07/31/2009 2:43:02 PM PDT by wintertime (People are not stupid! Good ideas win!)
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To: Sticky
Obama's father was not a U.S. citizen, and his mother was too young at 18 to transmit citizenship if Obama was born outside the United States. That is why Obama was under a greater than usual obligation to provide the best documentation available proving his birthplace. Americans should not have to wonder about the legitimacy of their president. A presidential candidate should not burden the country with such a concern.

Prior to the Democratic presidential primary, Obama should have said something like this: "I know that the circumstances of my childhood are somewhat unusual, and that some of you may doubt that I qualify as a natural born citizen. Therefore I have directed the State of Hawaii and my birth hospital to release to the public all records pertaining to my birth." If after such a request the Hawaii Department of Health had released a statement saying that they could not locate Obama's long form certificate, and if there were a good reason for the document to be missing, there would probably have been no Certifigate.

28 posted on 07/31/2009 6:51:12 PM PDT by TChad
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