Posted on 07/28/2009 1:25:28 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
I’m a 24, straight out of the refugium.
See yaz all at the next R1b M343 family reunion (men only). We'll need an entire country to hold it in...
Okay. Keep an eye out for me. (ahem) I'll be the one with the big teeth.
And what follows from that is, in famines (which would have been frequent), the Anglo-Saxons (and the women they took) would have been the last to starve, taking whatever food they needed from the Britons.
A phrase comes to mind as to what the life of an ordinary Briton probably would have been like after the conquest, “solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short.”
Heh... that *is* cool.
It was my impression that the Vikings ruled in England for several generations. For instance Cnut was a major English king in the early 11th century.
The Vikings had a great deal of influence on English Law through the manorial court system and the underlying concepts of tort under notions of “trespass”
Viking laws were framed in terms of “injuries” to the rights of others, valued as:
Physical rights of “were” (life or limb);
Psychological status rights of “mund” (peace or privacy); and
Ownership rights of private property.
Trial and judgement were rendered by a tribunal of chiefs or an manorial assembly - the predecessor of the jury. Each injury was compensable through the award of monetary damages determined by the social rank of the parties and the severity of the injury.
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Over a period of about twenty years, Svein and his son Knut (the latter for nineteen) ruled England, but not without having to fight continually. Knut must have been a warlike, bloodthirsty bastard, but he was apparently a pretty good politician, unafraid to delegate. Various Viking groups also occupied and ruled the Shetlands, the Orkneys (the latter also had been occupied by the Romans a thousand years earlier), many of the islands off the Scottish coast, and carved realms out of Ireland, over a period of centuries, finally getting broken at the last battle by Irish king Brian Boru. After William I conquered England (he was descended from Hrolf the Ganger, who had carved his realm of Normandy out of France), the House of Normandy and the succeeding Plantagenets started the British conquest of Ireland, which went on into the reign of Eliz I (at least). :’)
Speaking of which, that reminds me, I noticed a new bio of John of Gaunt the other day...
Strange, I never seem to find the time to do stuff around the house...
If you were a man. If you were a cute female Briton, you would be in fairly good condition after being taken up by one of the conquerors.
:-))
Thanks!!
Sure. I haven’t been subclade tested but my Y DNA Markers are:
DYS19
14
DYS385a
11
DYS385b
15
DYS388
12
DYS389i
13
DYS389ii
29
DYS390
24
DYS391
11
DYS392
13
DYS393
13
DYS437
15
DYS438
12
DYS439
12
DYS442
10
DYS447
25
DYS448
19
DYS460
11
GATA H4
12
YCAIIa
19
YCAIIb
23
Maternal DNA Substitutions:
16134 Substitution C > t
16147 Substitution C > a
16172 Substitution T > c
16223 Substitution C > t
16248 Substitution C > t
16320 Substitution C > t
16355 Substitution C > t
16519 Substitution T > c
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