Posted on 07/23/2009 2:37:34 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
Yes, and Obama himself may not be a natural born citizen in several ways.
You wrote-
“One of these days we’ll be able to present these facts in such a way that even a liberal can comprehend it. I’m not sure this summation is it, but maybe through repetition they’ll begin to understand. Agreed ... citizens of foreign governments can not bear and raise “natural born citizens” of the United States unless they *first* renounce their former citizenship and become naturalized here, or they were living at the time our Constitution was adopted. Mr. Obama’s father meets neither of these criteria.”
Write the media! They may hate us, but our numbers will speak for themselves. Remember, they first need good ratings to survive- they’ll listen.
You wrote-
“EXCELLENT wrap up. How do we get this to everyone? I’m going to write Hannity to convene a 1 hour panel discussion of this with both sides represented. Don’t hold breath, but maybe with enough effort, this might breakthrough: even the left has some with brains.”
In other words, Obama wasn’t born then!
“..... at the time of the adoption of this Constitution”
See post 28
They might when they learn that the Constitution is what gives them their power!
You wrote-
“.... Unfortunately our Supreme Court doesn’t seem to care about what the Constitution stands for anymore!”
Sorry, RPA, I meant to ping VJ to post #43 instead of you. But I think you’ll appreciate the course of logic contained therein as well :-)
You just crossed into "emanations of penumbras" territory wih that statement. You are trying to get the Constitution to say what you want it to say, instead of what the plain language means. That kind of thinking is what gave us In re Dred Scott, Plessy vs. Ferguson, and Roe vs. Wade and all the attendant nightmares those three cases caused.
No thanks, I'll take my Constitution straight up, not bent and twisted because people don't like a particular President.
Both parents must be citizens in order for their child to be a "natural born citizen." Why do people have such a hard time understanding that?
So, are you saying that any US-born girl who gets pregnant at age 18 from a man who is not a US citizen does not confer citizenship to the offspring?
That would render many tens of thousands of American ineligible for higher office.
Why make it so complicted?
There are enough natural born citizens who hate this country and could be taken and programmed to be a pawn to a foreign power.
You don't need all these crazy ideas.
The ultimate check on who is elected President is made by the electorate.
Ok, so I read that correctly. Thanks.
In 1961, I believe that the RACE classification of black parents was "Negro" and not "African".
1. Obama, I want to see your 1961 long form birth certificate because I want to verify that the term "African" for the RACE of your father listed on your short form birth certificate---the one we see on the internet---is also the term used to classify the RACE of your father on your 1961 long form birth certificate.
2. Obama, if the RACE classification of your father on your 1961 long form birth certificate is different from the "African" RACE classification of your father on your short form birth certificate that you openly displayed on your official fight the smears site during the 2008 presidential campaign, then I say that you and Hawaii officials have a lot of explaining to do.
3. Dear Hawaii officials, including the Republican Governor: Is Obama's 1961 long form birth certificate the only time in Hawaii birth certificate history when a black parent was classified as "African" as opposed to the more commonly used term in the rest of the United States of America of "Negro"?
4. That is, can you cite another instance in Hawaii birth certificate history between 1961-1971 when a black parent's RACE classification was listed as "African" as a substitute for the more commonly used term in the rest of The United States of America of "Negro"?
5. Dear Hawaii officials, especially the Republican Governor: If you can't cite a single instance in Hawaii birth certificate history when the term "African" was substituted for the more commonly used term "Negro" to classify black parents in 1961, then I say that you have a lot of serious explaining to do as to why and how the term "African" happens to appear on Obama's short form birth certificate, the one Hawaii officials have publicly claimed is "authentic", and the one Obama displayed on the internet during the 2008 presidential campaign.
... the news libs will sure have egg on their face when Hussein is removed from the White House!
.... then again, when will Obama show us his original long form birth certificate?
So what kind of a citizen would he be classified as?
NO it hasn't, John Bingham's error not withstanding.
Right on, right on, right on! I agree with you 110%.
You wrote-
“Thanks for posting.
This is the real question: shall we be ruled by a man whose loyalty is divided?
The Framers intended the answer to be “no”. Monarchial Europe was full of “Royalty” who were foreigners, put on the thrones of different countries in a bid to subjugate them or to bind them. Men like Madison and Jefferson intended to stop that from ever happening, and the Natural Born Citizen restriction was their method.
Now we have just such a case as they intended to prevent. The issue should be brought up and the Usurper removed.”
1) visit a U.S state, 2) hook up with an American girl (underage even), 3) father a child (marriage optional), 4) take the child back to Iran during its formative years for indoctrination, 5) re-introduce the child to the United States at a later date, 6) wait for the child to reach 35 years of age, 7) use the financial resources of Iran to market this child for POTUS, 8) thereby usurping the highest seat in this nation for his own purpose.
No, because as a foreign dignitary, neither he nor his child would not be subject to US jurisdiction, unless he abandoned her and high-tailed it off to Iran before she was born.
.... and I’d like to see Obama’s original long form birth certificate!
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