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To: Grig
Why don't he Joint Chiefs go to Obama and say "Sir, you must either present a valid full form birth certificate, step down, or we will remove you from office by force."

Because we are not a military dictatorship. Because of the rule of law. Illegality, illegitimacy must be dealt with through constitutional channels. Removing Obama for having been ineligible rests with Congress or the Supreme Court, not with the Army. Do you not really understand this?

9 posted on 07/22/2009 7:25:39 PM PDT by Houghton M.
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To: Houghton M.
Do you not really understand this?

Probably not.

He's Canadian.

18 posted on 07/22/2009 7:29:18 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (The code word for the new racism is "diversity.")
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To: Houghton M.

I’m Canadian so I don’t know all the ins and outs of how things are supposed to work (but I do try). That is why I am ASKING.

If he is not constitutionally permitted to be president then isn’t he also not the CNC, and if refuses to vacate the office, doesn’t that make him a domestic enemy, or traitor or something? What does military law say about fraudulently posing as an officer, would he be subject to that? Congress can’t just wave their hand override the constitution to keep Obama in office (well, not without violating their own oaths)


30 posted on 07/22/2009 7:34:01 PM PDT by Grig
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To: Houghton M.

“Removing Obama for having been ineligible rests with Congress or the Supreme Court, not with the Army.”

Clearly it does not...


32 posted on 07/22/2009 7:34:19 PM PDT by babygene
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To: Houghton M.

Supreme court does not seem to be concerned with issue.

Dems in Congress has the Majority to what ever the wish.

Who is left but the Military. They are sworn to protect the constitution from ALL enemies both foreign and domestic.


34 posted on 07/22/2009 7:35:22 PM PDT by Bailee
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To: Houghton M.

That is right he needs to be Impeached and prosecuted for fraud.


36 posted on 07/22/2009 7:38:00 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (!!)
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To: Houghton M.
Neither is Honduras a a military dictatorship. That is just the line state-run media used because Obama is a Chavez-Ortega supporter. The Honduras Supreme Court ordered Zelaya removed, in concert with Honduras’ legislature because he blatantly defied their constitution by calling for, and organizing a referendum, which would likely have been fixed by their Acorn, to claim a second, third, fourth, ... term in office. In Honduras there is a one-term limit on presidents. Honduras' Army defends and protects their constitution (haven't I heard that somewhere before?). It did its job. They could, and perhaps should, have indicted Zelaya (or impeached, whatever is consistent with their laws). Look at the trouble he's causing in concert with Chavez, Obama and Clinton. He will get people killed.
41 posted on 07/22/2009 7:40:23 PM PDT by Spaulding
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To: Houghton M.

Very well stated but flawed. What happens when the Constitution is not being followed or enforced. Do not tell me that I have to follow laws when our leaders refuse to.


61 posted on 07/22/2009 7:50:24 PM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (We the people, ..... never)
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To: Houghton M.

Is this the same Congress that passes into law bills it hasn’t even _read_?

Is this the same SCOTUS which denies any citizen standing to verify that Obama DOES qualify to be president, or that refuses to hear the legitimate complaint of bondholders (which are backed by legal contracts) against the actions of the executive branch, or that declares that immanent domain may be used to take private property and turn it over to another private entity BECAUSE IT IS *THOUGHT* THAT IT WILL GENERATE MORE TAX REVENUE!?

The fighting men (military & civilian), supported by God Himself, may be America’s only hope.


66 posted on 07/22/2009 7:55:30 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Houghton M.

“Removing Obama for having been ineligible rests with Congress or the Supreme Court, not with the Army. Do you not really understand this?”

That’s a plausible sounding argument, but I’m not sure it’s quite correct. Since Barry is presumably an imposter, any federal law enforcement agent could simply arrest him, book him, and let the courts rule on the arrest. And the military take an oath to the constitution, not the POTUS. They can’t claim innocence if they carry out illegal orders from someone they know is an imposter, so the implication is they might have to do something else. Congress may actually have the least role to play, since they can’t legally impeach someone who isn’t actually POTUS! It’s definitely an interesting subject, in this legal fantasy world we now live in.


119 posted on 07/22/2009 9:03:13 PM PDT by devere (.)
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To: Houghton M.

The weakness of ‘constitutional channels’ is, the federal oligarchs have decidied to not allow any from we the people to have standing to challenge their authority, thus the constitutional contract has been abrogated by one side of the contract and we are now a ruled people, mere taxpayer serfs to the democrat run federal oligarchy making swift end to the old Republic.


136 posted on 07/22/2009 9:30:58 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: Houghton M.
Because we are not a military dictatorship.

Yet. Give it a few years. We're already developing aspects of the political culture of a third world country.

150 posted on 07/22/2009 10:00:31 PM PDT by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed Imposter")
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To: Houghton M.

And did we not say here on FR long before the November 2008 election that the SCOTUS must take up the issue of Obuma’s failure to produce a valid Birth certificate and nothing was done about it...Last i recall some suits were filed but nothing ever came of it...

The Press went after Palin, and McCain, and laughed at Biden’s gaffes, but it gave a free pass to Obuma...We no longer have a free press, just as we no longer have a democracy...We are becoming more of a Fascist nation—private ownership, controlled by the government...


160 posted on 07/22/2009 11:16:37 PM PDT by billmor (Have you had enough of CHANGE ?)
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