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To: chevydude26
In a nutshell: Obama hasn't produced his long form birth certificate so we don't know for certain that he actually was born where he says he was (and he and his people have given different answers about which hospital he was born in), and Hawaiian authorities haven't actually said that they've seen documents saying Obama was born in Hawaii.

If you can get your hands on a lot of Hawaiian computer-generated birth certifications you can enter the argument over whether the computer-generated short form birth certification that's said to be Obama's is a fraud. But if you can't, it's pretty much pointless to get drawn into that mess.

108 posted on 07/18/2009 1:54:00 PM PDT by x
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To: x; chevydude26

The natural born citizen controversy boils down to two issues, no matter who or what you believe.

1) Under the laws in place in 1961, Obama’s mother could have obtained a legal and valid birth certificate for him from the State of Hawaii whether or not Obama was born in Hawaii. This fact alone makes both Obama’s online, short-form COLB and Governor Lingle’s official statement absolutely irrelevant.

2) Barack H. Obama was a British citizen when he was born and he openly admits that. This fact alone makes it absolutely irrelevant where Obama was born as he “may not” be a natural born citizen as intended by the Constitutional requirement.

All this chatter about Obama producing the original, long-form birth certificate is missing the point. His long-form birth certificate could state that he was born in Honolulu as claimed and that still wouldn’t resolve the two issues noted above.


116 posted on 07/18/2009 2:25:40 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Character, Leadership, and Loyalty matter - Be an example, no matter the cost.)
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