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This is an in dept report on 401(k)s . Be sure to read the conclusion and let's see what becomes of this information.
1 posted on 07/18/2009 3:01:14 AM PDT by nateriver
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Nothing terribly surprising there. It is a curious twist on the old tale of the ant and the grasshopper. In our case the ant had his provisions for the winter evaporate right in front of his eyes. Sort of makes the case for the grasshopper.

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2 posted on 07/18/2009 3:25:54 AM PDT by wastoute (translation of tag "Come and get them (bastards)" and the Scout Motto)
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401(k) funds create a difficult issue for the elderly who are receiving long-term care and, thus, are obliged to do Title 19 planning.

Qualified money cannot be gifted (ownership cannot be changed). It is almost inevitable that qualified money is completely liquidated before the individual qualifies for Title 19. (Annuitizing the funds properly can partially get around this.)

This type of discussion usually points out that immmediate annuities give income for life (payments end at death.) Fact is, this income is forfeited by person receiving Title 19 support.

This point makes clear one of the advantage of defined contribution plans vs. defined benefit plans. Think of all the people on Title 19 who have essentially forfeited their pension to “the Title 19/nursing home system”.

401(k) money also creates issues related to means-testing for many government programs. For example, I know one individual with an IRA balance of $50,000. She has lost $40,000 of VA benefits over the last 4 years because the IRA has made her ineligible. (It is a very expensive IRA, indeed.)


4 posted on 07/18/2009 5:04:55 AM PDT by campaignPete R-CT
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