To: r9etb
What you're demanding is that the Kpelle tribesman accept the conditions as you've defined them, and to apply no knowledge beyond what you will allow. And if he fails to follow the approach you demand, his divergence from that approach is assessed (by you) as "stupid."
It's an IQ question. Since the author of the article does not describe exactly how the exam went about, we are forced to make certain assumptions. We assume that the Kpelle tribesman has been told that his intelligence is being tested, or at least that he knows that the tester is testing him in some way. It would be silly to assume that the tribesman was ambushed along the road by masked researchers who then demand to know whether the non-rice farmer is Kpelle. If the tribesman knows he is being tested, then he also understands that the test comes from the perspective of the tester, or that there are certain conditions for the test. If he does not understand that, then that is, in itself, a display of lower intelligence. But, to satisfy your pedantry, you can create any non-culture-specific test you like with a 300-page, lawyer-approved addendum which describes the conditions of the 3 sentence syllogism, and I would bet money that any tribesman who can get the question right after reading and understanding all of your specified conditions would also be able to get the question right without them.
LOL! You're an arrogant sort, but you're not very convincing.
Part of the problem with our world today is that people fear speaking openly about things. One of the curses of the Leftist infection of our society is that people more and more accept the foolish notion that there is no right answer, just as there is no Right and Wrong, and there are no winners and losers, and there is no Good and Evil. We have people excusing the 9/11 terrorists, for example, because not only can they not recognize evil anymore when they see it, but they cannot even admit to the existence of evil, nor can they admit to the fact that not all cultures are equal. Instead, they worship at the altar of equivalence in all things, and go to great lengths to justify, intellectually, such an obviously false position.
Your argument is exactly along those lines. You are in the same school of people who dumb down schools for black Americans because to demand the same standards from them as from white students is culturally and racially biased. That attitude actually cheats black children of their opportunity for a real education, but since you won't hold them to any real standard, they don't bother to learn.
Furthermore, any attempt by others to inject any actual reason or sense into the discussion is met merely with name calling, such as calling me arrogant. Rather than believe that there are some black kids who are stupid, just as there are some white kids who are stupid, and just as there are undoubtedly some Kpelle tribesmen who are stupid, you would prefer to assume that they are all unavoidable stupid by reason of culture, whereas someone like me will show them respect as human beings by applying the same standard to them that I would apply to any men. It is you who are arrogant, because you believe so strongly in the superiority of your particular culture that you think a man is incapable of figuring out a question about a pink widget just because he is a simple tribesman.
43 posted on
07/17/2009 8:11:34 PM PDT by
fr_freak
To: fr_freak
It's an IQ question. Since the author of the article does not describe exactly how the exam went about, we are forced to make certain assumptions. You described the conditions of your own, better, tests. And showed thereby that you have no clue.
We assume that the Kpelle tribesman has been told that his intelligence is being tested, or at least that he knows that the tester is testing him in some way.
You also assume that your Kpelle tribesman is used to thinking in the same way as the researcher. A different outlook on life is far more likely a cultural than an genetic thing ... is IQ supposed to measure cultural effects? And since the Kpelle tribesman's response was logically quite correct from a quite reasonable perspective, clearly he's not so stupid after all.
You're simply assuming away those effects and demanding that the tribesman accept the conditions you set -- IOW, doing exactly what I said you were doing. You're just too arrogant to admit it.
Part of the problem with our world today is that people fear speaking openly about things.
In the spirit of openness, I will openly and frankly state that you're a hypocrite ... every disparaging trait you attribute to the Kpelle tribesman is found in your own posts. Attempts to "inject reason and sense" into your little diatribe is met with a set of self-serving but unjustified assumptions.
You, sir, are worth no more of my time. Have a nice life.
44 posted on
07/19/2009 3:23:17 PM PDT by
r9etb
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