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To: HamiltonJay

The other guy on this thread said He does.

If He made us that way, where we all obey, etc., why would we even think it was a gift, and not just the way it is? Who decided all this was a gift? Who decided that we have to worship God and that it has to mean something?

If we are incapable of understanding God, as many suggest, how is it possible that a theologian or scholar, could know anymore about God, than a non-theologian or non-scholar? How can someone study that which they are incapable of understanding? How would they know whether they were studying the right thing?


74 posted on 07/16/2009 10:15:58 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different.)
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To: stuartcr

Now you are getting into a different area. You see there are some folks who read adam and eve as literal, then you have the majority of theologians who for the better part of the last 2000+ years read it as alagory. The “literal” reading of the old testament as word for word how it was is actually something relatively recent (last few hundred years) that view does not match most theological thought.

But that’s a debate for another time.

As to your statements

“If we are incapable of understanding God, as many suggest”

Ah, many may suggest we may never understand God, but few knowlegable would suggest we will never understand what God wants for us... while there can be debate over interpretation, the bulk of theological concensus of what God wants for us is fairly well accepted. Don’t confuse the two.

Its impossible to understand God, trying to understand God is a wholey different thing than trying to understand what God wants for and of us. My dog will never understand what it is to be Human, but it can understand that I want him to fetch me my slippers.

“how is it possible that a theologian or scholar, could know anymore about God, than a non-theologian or non-scholar? How can someone study that which they are incapable of understanding? How would they know whether they were studying the right thing?”

See above, understanding God fully, is indeed an impossible task, understanding what God wishes for us, is not so complex. Fortunately he has given us direction in terms we can understand. Theologians do not try to describe the essence of God... they can speak of God’s love, but they cannot nor do they try to tell you what God is.. beyond the Alpha and the Omega, the begining and the end and the Trinity. We can make conclusions about God based on the instructions he has left us, but we cannot fully understand “God”.

As I stated before, no question you have has not been thought of by many many people before, read and you will discover what they found and discovered when they asked it and why they did as well. Good luck.


80 posted on 07/16/2009 10:37:17 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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