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To: frog in a pot; LucyT
To your 705: First, speaking for most, we certainly appreciate your participation on Free Republic. Hopefully, you will agree that the Congress is the only body that can unravel this potential scam. Further, that it may need a nudge from the USSC. Assume for the moment that a defect occurred when the Congress ignored its obligation and authority pursuant to the 12th and 20th Amendments and 3 USC 15, to assure that no substantial irregularities occurred during the work of the Electoral College. (One of the Kerchner v Obama arguments) Assume the Democrats ignore or defeat any floor action brought now to correct such defect. In your opinion, would one or more Republican members of Congress have a means of bringing such an issue to the USSC?

First, thank you for the compliment--they are always appreciated.

In thinking about how this might get resolved, I have come to exactly the same conclusion as you do--the first and most appropriate forum is Congress on a motion to reconsider their action in certifying the Electorial College outcome.

And no, I don't think it even gets to the floor unless the Dems are on board. I believe it takes a motion to suspend the Rules and even then, I have not looked at the House rules in many years and am uncertain how it would work procedurally--but I don't think there is any substantive outcome that would be actionable anywhere absent participation of the Dem majority.

And I also tend to doubt you get even that far absent some negotiated agreement between the House Dems and Obama.

In that setting, and the charm in that setting is, you get out of the problem with creating a Constitutional crisis.

Absent an agreed outcome along those lines with the House acting to restate the election outcome down to Biden as acting President pending election of a qualified person, the result is a Constitutional conflict that might bring the government down.

The other obvious party with a direct interest in the outcome that would have the power to act to bring the issue to a head is the Military. Action by the Military would precipitate a crisis and it would seem that at least initially, the Military could act most productively by attempting to deal through some intermediary, directly with Congress. Don't use the Judge Advocate General's office--hire outside private lawyers to attempt to get a deal with Congress.

707 posted on 07/16/2009 10:36:09 AM PDT by David (...)
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To: David; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; BP2; MeekOneGOP; ...

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# 707.

Following David...

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710 posted on 07/16/2009 10:47:36 AM PDT by LucyT (If it's not on FR, it didn't happen. --JimRob)
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To: David
Still a few republicans with a spines could put the issue on the table, then beat the dems into a pulp for refusing to even address the issue, obstructing discussion, censorship, etc.

If only we had even a single republican with a spine.

*sigh*

711 posted on 07/16/2009 10:53:41 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 177 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: David
Until Barry's poll numbers sink sufficiently to alert the democrat criminal enterprise that thier leader is about to be rejected and them along with him, they will not allow anything to endanger the head of their power structure.

You would think that Steny Hoyer, lusting as he does to become Speaker, would bring this to the floor and push it through because it would impugn the Pelosi leadership, and exposing her ineptness would be an 'out' from responsibility for the democrats facing 2010 re-election.

There is little doubt that a number of democrat offciails knew Barry was not strictly Constitutionally eligible. But Nacy Pelosi's hide is the primary pelt hanging out there to be poofed because she endorsed his nominee eligibility at the state's level and then squelched any possibility to object in January whent he EC votes were received.

The key to getting this affirmative action bastard figure out of the Oval Office is how it can be done without exposing the democrats for their complicity. If a way is not forthcoming, the criminal enterprise will not allow it to move forward reagrdless of how it 'looks', because the democrats know the enemedia will paint them innocent regardless of the truth the enemedia has in hand.

713 posted on 07/16/2009 11:01:50 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: David; frog in a pot; LucyT

>Absent an agreed outcome along those lines with the House acting to restate the election outcome down to Biden as acting President pending election of a qualified person, the result is a Constitutional conflict that might bring the government down.<

If we had real republicans in the senate, they would all vow at this point not to vote on, discuss or allow discussion (through filibuster) unanimously, to suspend all business until Obama provided a release of his his actual records sought including - long form, college transcripts, passports, social security records, selective service registration, high school records, elementary records, health records (including his family history.

I just want him to sign waivers for these people to have the records made available. I do not want them coming from Obama himself because they could be altered.

If our senators would stop all business it may look bad in the MSM, but it would restore their base support and gain quite a few new supporters. Not to mention the money would roll in and their power even in a minority would be somewhat restored.


719 posted on 07/16/2009 11:30:56 AM PDT by Munz ("We're all here for you OK? It's a circle of love" Rham Emanuel)
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