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Obama birth claim challenge continues in CA court July 13
Manchester Faith & Culture Examiner ^ | July 8, 2:29 PM | Dyan Puma

Posted on 07/08/2009 2:11:30 PM PDT by BP2

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To: LucyT
Maybe his negatives are going up so fast that Obama knows that someone might have his real BC. If the real Kenyan BC turns up he committed fraud with his fake. I sure wish I knew what Rush's secret project was. He mentioned it when he and Levin mentioned the BC.
41 posted on 07/09/2009 8:37:20 AM PDT by Frantzie (Remember when Bush was President and Americans had jobs (and ammo)?)
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To: DannyTN

Is this the Mario Apuzzo case in S. NJ? It looked like the judge at least letting the case get further than others.


42 posted on 07/09/2009 8:40:35 AM PDT by Frantzie (Remember when Bush was President and Americans had jobs (and ammo)?)
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To: autumnraine
You know what, Biden is an idiot and Pelosi is a B*tch, but I don’t believe they are intentionally bent on destroying this country.

You'd be wrong.

They hate the thought of a distributed power structure, and sovereign individuals with rights guaranteed at a higher level than their own whims.

They hate America and want it disassembled into a socialist autocracy with themselves at the top playing chess with us as the pawns.


A verbis ad verbera

43 posted on 07/09/2009 8:50:16 AM PDT by Costumed Vigilante (Congress: When a handful of evil morons just isn't enough)
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To: LucyT
So? We all have copies of their pictures and can prove their provenance.

On the other hand there is something pernicious about an operation that deep scrubs the Internet and makes me ask, Why?

Why not just amend or rewrite Factcheck? Is it really necessary to do a crawl over the Internet and spend that much resource scrubbing?

44 posted on 07/09/2009 9:22:18 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: null and void; Beckwith; stockpirate; PhilDragoo; Candor7; MeekOneGOP; Myrddin; ...
Yes, much Obama campaign materials are disappearing fast!

http://web.archive.org/web/*/my.barackobama.com
If you click on archives, you see:
We're sorry, access to http://my.barackobama.com/page/dashboard/private has been blocked by the site owner via robots.txt.

http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://fightthesmears.com
Sorry, no matches.
Keep in mind...

YESTERDAY, it said sometime like "website removed from archive at request of owner". BOTH sites were available via Archive.org until just recently...


HOWEVER...

FOR NOW, http://www.barackobama.com/ IS STILL online ... that may change.

Archive what you can — it's still available back to 2004 at archive.org — LEECH IT ALL -- especially 2004!!!
http://web.archive.org/web/*/www.barackobama.com

Same thing for http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.obamaforillinois.com -- it's all there still to 2002 -- archive it ALL!

45 posted on 07/09/2009 9:40:31 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2

Thanks for your great work.


46 posted on 07/09/2009 9:42:06 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Republic

Not only has he used each of those names in his past (and perhaps just last year to be focal accounts for receiving campaign funds), he has actually lied to the State Bar of Illinois on his application, swearing he had never used any name bu Barack Hussein Obama! Democrats don’t care if he lies, steals, committs felony document fraud, they consider it a resume enhancement to be a leading democrat politician!


47 posted on 07/09/2009 9:42:06 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: BP2
Taitz told WND if her motion is granted she will immediately request access to Obama’s birth records and other documentation that could determine his eligibility to occupy the Oval Office.

And why should we expect this mothion to succeed where all the others have failed? What is new or different or unique about the tactics behind this one?

48 posted on 07/09/2009 9:43:20 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: presently no screen name
Could be why zero wants racists Sonja disparately on the SC.

Wouldn't make any difference. She's one liberal justice replacing another.

49 posted on 07/09/2009 9:46:08 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: LucyT

They’re closing the doors. someone do something.


50 posted on 07/09/2009 9:46:51 AM PDT by Lady Jag (Communism + Hezbollah + Al Qaeda + Obama + StoneAge = CHAOS)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy

Actually, in the event of a court order, Hawaii complies, not Barry.


51 posted on 07/09/2009 9:47:28 AM PDT by MortMan (Stubbing one's toes is a valid (if painful) way of locating furniture in the dark.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
I have my thoughts ... which I'll reserve for now.

However, it's rather interesting that these websites are being scrubbed, at the same time the Statement of Interest of the United States comes down on July 7th: http://www.scribd.com/doc/17185121/Statement-of-Interest-Keyes-v-Obama?autodown=pdf

It's almost as if the US Attorneys are trying to ward off this and future lawsuits...

52 posted on 07/09/2009 9:59:32 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: DannyTN
Didn’t he give Obama a deadline of June 29th? So has anything happened? Are we waiting for him to rule again?

He didn't order Obama to do anything. He gave the defense, that's Obama, until the 29th to respond to the plaintiff. The defense responded, as they have in all of these cases, by filing a motion to dismiss. Now the plaintiffs have requested until August 20th to respond. You can follow its progress by Googling "Kerchner v Obama".

53 posted on 07/09/2009 10:04:37 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

Tell the Obama camp that they cannot run and hide from the law forever.

You wrote- “........ The defense responded, as they have in all of these cases, by filing a motion to dismiss.”


54 posted on 07/09/2009 10:36:13 AM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: real_patriotic_american
Tell the Obama camp that they cannot run and hide from the law forever.

It's been working for them so far.

55 posted on 07/09/2009 10:37:50 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

Good fortune ran its course with Al Capone — another Chicago gangster.


56 posted on 07/09/2009 10:52:30 AM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2
Good fortune ran its course with Al Capone — another Chicago gangster.

The federal government took him down, not private citizens. They don't have that pesky 'standing' issue to overcome since they charged him with a crime. You're on the outside looking in.

57 posted on 07/09/2009 10:56:18 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur; LucyT; Polarik; hoosiermama
First of all, it's rare to see the Judicial/Executive Branch take on the Chief Executive, isn't it? That's why it starts with private citizens (with special access to information), with investigations normally undertaken by Congress.

For example:

-- Deepthroat (W. Mark Felt), an FBI agent acting as a private citizen, led to Woodward/Bernstein, which led Sam Dash.

-- Linda Tripp, a (fired) DoD employee acting a private citizen, led to Isikoff & Drudge, which led to Ken Starr.

Motivated by plea bargain or political payback, Felt and Tripp gave evidence to the media, leading to public moral outrage, which lead to investigations by the government (Congress). When Congress flips (as it surely will) to Republican in 2010, Obama should be sweating bullets. He's pissing off a lot of people now, and it only takes one fly in the ointment with the "right" information to cause a President a lot of grief — especially if that President is sagging in the polls.


Now, in Obama’s situation, the alleged crime took place before, during and after the election. The problem is, Obama and his lawyers have done a wiz-bang job in suppressing the evidence through a variety of legal maneuvers. Federal investigators and prosecutors aren't going to pursue the issue unless there IS evidence -- promotions and budgets will suffer if they get it "wrong". Citizens who would likely to come forward with the evidence are stymied by actions to prevent college transcripts, birth certificates, etc, from being disclosed to the media and the public. That's why there is case after case coming after Obama, and ALSO why "shopping" for the right kind of judge is important for Orly and others with eligibility suits.

The judge presiding over Orly's case, Judge Carter, is a former marine and seen as many as a “straight shooter”. He began his legal career as an Assistant District Attorney with the Orange County District Attorney's Office in 1972, where he became the senior deputy district attorney in charge of the office's homicide division.

As a prosecutor, Carter was the initial prosecutor and filed charges in the case of serial killer William Bonin, also known as “The Freeway Killer,” who became the first person executed by lethal injection in California in 1996.

Between 2000 and 2001, Carter presided over the longest criminal trial in the history of the Central District of California. This case involved the prosecution of more than forty alleged members of the Mexican Mafia on charges of murder, attempted murder, conspiracy to murder, extortion, etc.

I don't think Judge Carter will be intimidated like other judges have been by Obama. He's 65 and probably won't move up the judicial food chain. If he smells corruption, he'll likely bite.

Judge Carter will probably reason: what wrong with subpoenaing college transcripts and birth certificate records? Wouldn't the President like to dismiss these claims, once and for all?

Obama's lawyers haven't put forth Privacy or Executive Privilege as a reason to deny records -- just the old "frivolous and insubstantial" argument. Furthermore, I don't think this judge is going to accept the US Attorneys' plea of Interlocutory orders (§1292 -- Interlocutory decisions) -- Judge Carter has discretion.

Plainly put, in July 2009, Obama's running out of excuses (and time) to keep hiding secrets about his eligibility.

58 posted on 07/09/2009 1:24:51 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: BP2; null and void; Beckwith; stockpirate; PhilDragoo; Candor7; MeekOneGOP; Myrddin; ...

REMEMBER, FELONY FORGERIES ARE FOREVER.


59 posted on 07/09/2009 2:50:56 PM PDT by Polarik (Obama: When destroying America is not enough.)
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To: Polarik

Did both Obama’s let their law license lapse?
self | 10/12/2008 | vharlow

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2104088/posts

document copies on this thread.


60 posted on 07/09/2009 3:01:07 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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