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To: yarddog
The 38-40 is an oddball and I am not sure how it got it’s name

Many of the old western cartridges all basically referred to both the caliber and the powder charge. Thus the 38-40 was a Cal .38 bullet set over 40 grains of black powder. 32-20, 45-70, 50-90, are all the same.

Modern loading of the cartridges don't always use black powder. 45-70 can be found using the original specifications (for antique guns) or way hot designed for modern firearms. Inadvertent mixing can really ruin your day. ;)

154 posted on 07/08/2009 9:18:25 AM PDT by kAcknor ("A pistol! Are you expecting trouble sir?" "No ma'am, were I expecting trouble I'd have a rifle.")
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To: kAcknor; yarddog

Yarddog: The 38-40 is an oddball and I am not sure how it got it’s name.

You: Many of the old western cartridges all basically referred to both the caliber and the powder charge. Thus the 38-40 was a Cal .38 bullet set over 40 grains of black powder. 32-20, 45-70, 50-90, are all the same.

Me: Sorry, but Yarddog was questioning just how the 38-40 was named. He is correct in his confusion since I don’t have a clue either. The cartridge started out as a 44-40 with the name using a 44 caliber[Actually a .430 bullet] with forty grains of blackpowder.

Then Winchester decided to neck down the cartridge to a smaller diameter with again 40 grains of blackpowder. Now the confusion. They used a a true forty caliber bullet.

So, the 44-40 is really a 43-40 and the 38-40 is really a 40-40.

You can never have too many reloading manuals.


156 posted on 07/08/2009 9:42:15 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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