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1 posted on 07/05/2009 6:16:27 AM PDT by cyberella
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Depends on who's doing the teaching!

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2 posted on 07/05/2009 6:21:07 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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This is interesting...

YouTube - Black teacher teaches how to pronounce words like ask

3 posted on 07/05/2009 6:32:21 AM PDT by rickmichaels
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Recently watched part of a brutishly-honest HBO documentary about Baltimore’s Frederick Douglass High school, and was reminded of my wife’s part-year as a translating aide at the biggest high school around. Classes seem to often begin with a large black girl hollering “Hey, why you axin’ us to sit down ‘cause you ain’t sittin’ down? You think we gon’ give any respeck we don’t be gettin’? How come you think you gots to make us learn your way? Our way be diff’ent and fresh, jus’ like we be fresh to you. We sit when we ...”


5 posted on 07/05/2009 6:43:26 AM PDT by flowerplough (Bammy = Oprah = Clinton = most elected Democrats, successfully feigning compassion for money&power)
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I taught in the trenches. It’s class. Not color.


6 posted on 07/05/2009 6:51:27 AM PDT by ReagansShinyHair
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how do you teach a kid that does NOT want to learn, cause learning is acting white???
7 posted on 07/05/2009 6:54:12 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - Obama is basically Jim Jones with a teleprompter)
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Speaking from a 1 year stint teaching middle school in Detroit..it was HELL! I was on the wrong side of the bars every day for 9 months. There was no teaching, it was about surviving each day for myself and my students.

The idyllic teaching perceptions I graduated with were beaten down and there was nothing left to give. I gave up...but I did survive the year.


9 posted on 07/05/2009 6:56:31 AM PDT by jp3 (BABIES, GUNS & JESUS...HOT DAMN!!)
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That article is beyond belief.

My sister teaches in an inner city school in New Orleans (mostly black), and has told me many horror stories. Here are some:

Kids stimulating sex

Kids calling her the "F" word.

Kids jumping on chairs during class time

Kids with knives

Etc. Basically a lot of out of control kids.

The stories are real, but at the same time, many of the kids are funny, warm, compassionate, caring, want to do better in life, etc. Some go on to college.

If one student cusses her out, five will chime in to shut up. She has plenty of likable kids, and a number of them are involved in their churches. She's totally burnt out by the end of the school year, but she goes back in the fall because she does love the kids and does make a difference in many of their lives.

The guy who wrote that article should never have been near a mostly black school. Good riddance.

10 posted on 07/05/2009 7:00:21 AM PDT by Texas_shutterbug (e)
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I think a big part of the solution would be to get the parents involved and have them put a foot in their kids’ butt. Now we have too many who think their kid can do no wrong.


11 posted on 07/05/2009 7:10:26 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (Diversity causes division and resentment.)
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That essay could have been written by me or one of the teachers from my high school following the integration of the white and black high schools in my home town in 1969. My high school went from 100% white to 80% black.

I graduated from public high school in 1972 with the few white kids whose parents couldn’t afford to send them to private school. We’d walk the halls, trying to be as inconspicuous as possible, going from one chaotic classroom to another chaotic classroom. The teachers had no control and the principal, who was black, didn’t seem to give a damn.

Now, almost 40 years and trillions of dollars later, the scene is virtually unchanged and unimproved.


12 posted on 07/05/2009 7:10:39 AM PDT by cowboyway ("The beauty of the Second Amendment is you won't need it until they try to take it away"--Jefferson)
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“proposals for what to do about it seem basically unchanged”

My frame of reference wrt this goes back as far as the late 1950’s in terms of perceiving learning attitude (not aptitude) and results with blacks, admittedly minimal in social/civilian life, but quite a bit more in the military.

The statement I snipped above is astonishing! The attitude of society in general and educators changed drastically in the late 1960’s with the advent of the “great society” and all that it brought forth across the spectrum.

My Afro age-group-peers and those who are even older are much better educated than the vast majority of the present day examples. This is only my own opinion.

The conspiracy of ignorance amongst educators is real, and it has dumbed down ALL public education, and over time statements such as the one snipped above have come to fit within and be accurate within the frames of reference of those who would make such a statement.


13 posted on 07/05/2009 7:11:32 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68 (CALL CONGRESSCRITTERS TOLL-FREE @ 1-800-965-4701)
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The left has spent 50+ years telling blacks that they are inferior, victims, incapable of success and entirely dependent upon the government. In other words, democrats/leftists have gleefully destroyed an entire race for the purpose of buying votes and winning elections.


14 posted on 07/05/2009 7:19:02 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax (AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
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That was an excellent read, thank you. It sums up my opinion that in general there is no accountability built into black society and no ambition to excel or take advantage of the educational opportunities that are available. Instead there is a very deliberate pattern of thumbing their noses at white values. I didn’t see any mention of parental involvement in this article. It’s a definite class issue and not about race at all. Look at how Asian students typically place in the top of their classes despite poverty and language issues. White flight is still very real because once large groups of black students populate a school learning becomes secondary to their classroom antics, excuses and intimidation. Nobody learns anything. It’s a very sad vicious circle.


16 posted on 07/05/2009 7:34:27 AM PDT by McLynnan
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No surprise there, but it’s encouraging to hear someone speak the truth once in a while.


17 posted on 07/05/2009 7:51:42 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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bfl


18 posted on 07/05/2009 7:58:31 AM PDT by Titan Magroyne ("Drill now drill hard drill often and give old Gaia a cigarette afterwards she deserves it." HerrBlu)
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19 posted on 07/05/2009 8:00:59 AM PDT by Caesar Soze
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After all the approaches, budget changes and eye-rolling it remains difficult to not accept the obvious answer to the dilemma is that it’s caused by the quality of the raw material.


23 posted on 07/05/2009 10:18:17 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, then writes again.)
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My niece taught in an inner city grade school, she spent more time teaching them to talk than she did teaching them the 3 Rs. How can you teach a child to read English when they basically don’t speak English.


25 posted on 07/05/2009 10:39:24 AM PDT by tiki (True Christians will not deliberately slander or misrepresent others or their beliefs)
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mr marty

I trust you will recognize the question:

“Why is that not anathema to you?”


28 posted on 07/05/2009 11:59:35 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68 (CALL CONGRESSCRITTERS TOLL-FREE @ 1-800-965-4701)
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achievement gap

That is a very leftist way of looking at education. The easiest way to close achievement gaps is to bring down the achievers, and that is the normal leftist envy-driven evil outcome. Instead we should focus on opportunity gaps and let the chips fall where they may. Modern life is a continuous fountain of opportunities. Educators should strive to create opportunities for students. Equal outcome is not a desirable goal.

34 posted on 07/05/2009 4:10:07 PM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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There is nothing in this story that did not strike a chord with me; I have lived it. Every concept, stereotype, and action detailed in this story is spot on.

The ignorance, laziness, hostility and the just-plain-hatefulness-against white-people are things I witnessed daily when I worked in the schools.

I decided back then that if I won the lottery I would use the money to identify the good kids (who actually wanted to learn) and pay for them to attend private schools, as the environment of the public schools (that I worked in) was rife with violence, disrespect, and anti-white hatred.

Due to a series of eye-opening experiences (many of which were touched upon in the article), it was at this time in my life that I began to seriously consider the viability of a civil war. I think it may be the only way to turn our once-great country around.

46 posted on 07/06/2009 7:42:39 AM PDT by I Buried My Guns (Buy Lots Of Ammo Today: BLOAT)
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