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Tour de France 2009 [LIVE THREAD]

Posted on 07/04/2009 8:09:14 AM PDT by Mom MD

Today is day one! Armstrong riding. Astana is back! Predictions? Other comments? Does someone have the ping list from last year?


TOPICS: Sports
KEYWORDS: armstrong; astana; contador; cycling; cyrildessel; letour; oopers; tdf; tour; tourdefrance
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To: Mom MD

Thanks for the live thread MomMD!


921 posted on 07/26/2009 9:53:22 AM PDT by leilani
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To: leilani

Interesting, I think I read that of the last 5 Tours, 2 have started in France, 3 in other countries. This will make it 4 of 6.

The 3-country Stage this year was interesting.


922 posted on 07/26/2009 9:57:52 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.)
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To: leilani; DollyCali
I can't believe I've been watching the old tech free channel when I had the other in my HD package the whole time

I think that lealani has finally found her tagline! ;)

923 posted on 07/26/2009 10:00:23 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.)
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To: Ready4Freddy
It was 6 countries this year, R4F: Monaco, France, Spain, Andorra, Suisse & Italy. I wanna be there to check out the old homestead in NL for the start next year & then head over to the Alps. If TX weather is going to be as hot as this summer again - I'm outta here! I'll bring my l'equipe freep sign & yall can watch for me on the route. Wherever Thor is, I'll be. ;-)

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924 posted on 07/26/2009 10:09:46 AM PDT by leilani
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To: Ready4Freddy

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925 posted on 07/26/2009 10:10:46 AM PDT by leilani (Tagline? What tagline?)
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To: leilani

” SIX kisses for Mark Cavendish - very exciting finish. He just went off like a bottle rocket right before the line! In all, 6 stages for a UK rider. Amazing performance with fantastic help from his team, but Thor stayed right behind him - gets to keep green for 2009?”

He and Wiggins gave the UK something to be proud of.

They both seem to be down to earth competitors.


926 posted on 07/26/2009 10:17:51 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: Mr. Blonde

” Normally, moving to a different team to not be a team leader would be out of the question. Radio Shack provides a unique opportunity. As I mentioned the predicted top 3 riders on the team are all on the tail end of their careers. But they have all had tremendous success and would be able to mentor someone in how to be successful especially in the tour as you have 7 titles, a runner-up finish and two thirds. Add to that Bruyneel who is the most successful director and it is a pretty good situation. Certainly waiting a year or two to be the team leader on that team would seem worthwhile. Especially if the understanding was you would be the leader for either the Giro or Tour of Spain.”

Good observation. Johan/Lance can certainly teach the ropes to anyone willing to learn from the best.

Agree on Kloden. Surprised he faded a little, but know he’s a very capable rider. Also I think Lance respects him.

George would be nice, but he’s probably better elsewhere at this point in his career.


927 posted on 07/26/2009 10:21:45 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: leilani

Right, lainie pointed that out to me earlier, in a thread long, long ago & far, far away. ;).

I was speaking of the single Stage 16, Martigny >>> Bourg-Saint-Maurice that started in Suisse, went through Italia via the 2 St Bernards, and ended in France.

I would bust a gut if we saw your l’equipe freep sign on the road!


928 posted on 07/26/2009 10:22:52 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.)
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To: patriotspride; Mr. Blonde

Great analysis!

I think I’m going to start a Team Radio Shack thread next week, so we can keep track of the progress of the making of the Team. I think the process will be very interesting.

With y’all’s permission, I’d like to copy some of your, and others’, comments in re: Radio Shack to the new thread to get it going.


929 posted on 07/26/2009 10:28:54 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.)
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To: Ready4Freddy

Oops, yeah sorry - I misread your statement. You did say Stage, not tour.


930 posted on 07/26/2009 10:32:17 AM PDT by leilani (Tagline? What tagline?)
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To: patriotspride
Thought you might like to know, according to this official page about next year's Grand Depart, the Tour starts in Rotterdam & crosses down into Antwerp. Call your relatives now to reserve the guest room, lol!
931 posted on 07/26/2009 10:43:40 AM PDT by leilani (Tagline? What tagline?)
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To: leilani

Starts w/ a 9k ITT, even shorter than this year. Halfway between a Prologue & a real Stage.

Have they done away with the Prologue nomenclature?

2 starts in Rotterdam, what a coup for the City! That jaunt along the North Sea before they turn south for Belgium looks mighty windy to me.


932 posted on 07/26/2009 10:56:10 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.)
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To: Ready4Freddy
4 straight Tour wins by Spaniards. I didn't realize that the US was ahead of Spain in wins up until Lance left.

Must be the paella.

933 posted on 07/26/2009 11:09:09 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.)
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To: Ready4Freddy

I definitely would like to be pinged to the Radio Shack team announcement, thanks!

I wonder why Lance went with RS and not, say...Nike?

Ed


934 posted on 07/26/2009 11:10:45 AM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: Ready4Freddy
Have they done away with the Prologue nomenclature?

I just noticed that this year - they must have done that without bothering to tell us, lol. I remember London was a prologue in 2007, I don't recall any prologue last year and Monaco was an actual stage this year.

But having 6 countries this year really paid off in PR points for the tour, if the crowds of non-french europeans along the route for 2009 are any measure. The Netherlands is already totally bicycle-mad, so I'm not sure they can ramp up the interest there any higher, but The Tour will certainly get a spirited welcome there.

935 posted on 07/26/2009 11:12:51 AM PDT by leilani (Tagline? What tagline?)
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To: Ready4Freddy

Yeah, I’m definitely interested in seeing how Radio Shack comes together. Post what you like.

Any idea when the contracts for cyclists traditionally end? Is it a calendar year? I would imagine there won’t be much action until after the Vuelta as I’m sure no matter what contracts go through it.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see a few from the Trek-Livestrong developmental team show up on the team as well.


936 posted on 07/26/2009 11:13:29 AM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You ever thought about being weird for a living?)
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To: leilani
The Netherlands is already totally bicycle-mad

From the link in re: Grand Depart you gave us:

In 2010, the Netherlands, which gave the bicycle its nickname of “little queen”, will host the Grand Départ of the Tour for the fifth time. A journalist recently asked me why the Netherlands has been favoured compared to the other countries (“only” three starts each for Belgium and Germany, two for Luxembourg, one for Spain and none in Italy, for instance). Besides the geographical location, which gives the organisers every freedom to organise the route in its entirety, a large part of the answer lies in these few lines, written in L’Équipe in 1954, when the Grande Boucle decided to start outside French borders for the very first time:

“All of the Netherlands seemed to have gathered on the roads of Wassenaar, Delft, Rotterdam… Tens of thousands of spectators in closed ranks, uninterrupted, for kilometres and kilometres, clapping, cheering for everything that had to do with the Tour, the cyclists, the motorcyclists, the cars that followed or that led… [In this way] they made a triumph of the first stage!”

937 posted on 07/26/2009 11:27:48 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.)
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To: leilani

No Grand Departs for Italy. I guess the terrain works against them, almost have to start in the mountains. Although a Stage across Liguria would be workable, but perhaps too reminiscent of the Monaco area this year.

Plus, Italy has some world-class events already.


938 posted on 07/26/2009 11:33:49 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.)
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To: leilani; Mr. Blonde; Baynative; Mom MD
Was it my imagination or did tactics seem to play a much bigger role in this year's tour? I'm thinking maybe that's why it seemed like a more satisfying exercise to watch this year than most.

It wasn't just you, leilani. Lance's return, several (new) legitimate contenders like Contador and Andy Schleck, the Scleck brothers together, the whole Astana team thing, all of that played a part in keeping the TdF very interesting for me this year.

Now for my 'is it just me' question - Is it just me, or did the Tour go through some particularly beautiful areas this year? The valley in Stage 15 they passed through on their way to Verbier was mesmerizing to me. The valley where Martigny lies. Then Annecy.

That whole area of the country just knocked my socks off.

939 posted on 07/26/2009 11:54:13 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy (The time has come for someone to put his foot down. And that foot is me.)
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