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Apple's "new" battery technology???
Apple.com ^ | 6/16/09 | Apple.com

Posted on 07/01/2009 11:36:55 AM PDT by Blue Highway

The new MacBook Pro family has a breakthrough battery that runs for up to 7 hours on a single charge (8 hours on the 17-inch MacBook Pro).1 And thanks to advanced chemistry and an innovative new charging method, it can be recharged up to 1000 times — nearly three times the lifespan of typical notebook batteries.2 All in a notebook that’s as thin and light as ever....

(Excerpt) Read more at apple.com ...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: apple; ilovebillgates; iwanthim; iwanthimbad; liberal; lipoly; microsoftfanboys; proprietary
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

Yeah my friend disassembled an old 540mb Compaq drive from an old old old desktop system probably a 386sx and the magnets are great!


101 posted on 07/01/2009 5:18:56 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Blue Highway

You said — Please explain. Are you suggesting there will be an aftermarket company that will buy this 2 year old useless laptop for scrap? How much will they pay for this once $3000 laptop? $50? $100 tops?

It’s much, much simpler than that.

It’s not a boat anchor, because you simply replace the battery... LOL... (after five years, if you still have it, and/or the 1,000 full recharge cycles). As I said, there is a vibrant after-market network of suppliers out there.

Oh...., and one more thing you may not be aware of, the Apple computers last a lot longer than what one would normally think of, for the life of a product such as a computer (desktop or laptop). And because of that, you’ll find that people who do decide to sell theirs, get a lot higher price than one might think was possible on the “other side of the fence”... :-)

Let me give you a clue as to how some people sell their laptops, and for some real premium prices, too. They will get a two year extension on a warranty on their computer. And, of course, they care for their computer as one should (i.e., don’t beat it up, considering the resale value). And then, when they do sell it, after two years, they command some premium prices and that computer comes with a *full warranty* still intact, so that the buyer can be assured that he (or she) will have coverage for quite a while afterwards.

Now, you can keep trading up and trading up, barely losing any money on your laptop and do *quite well* getting a new product every two years. It’s a *fantastic way to go* actually...

Of course, this same technique would be *absolutely impossible* for the PC-type computers, because they are trash after a couple of years... (and so, according to your own experience you’re *perfectly right*).


102 posted on 07/01/2009 5:26:29 PM PDT by Star Traveler (The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is a Zionist and Jerusalem is the apple of His eye.)
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To: Blue Highway
It is well known there are less attacks directed towards Macs because of the limited amount of marketshare of users.

Correction: It is an article of faith among those who dislike or hate Apple and its products for whatever reasons that OS X is attacked less because it is used less. OS X is attacked less than Windows because it is more protected than Windows.

Why siege the fortress when you can take out the unprotected villagers instead?
103 posted on 07/01/2009 5:57:41 PM PDT by Terpfen (Ain't over yet, folks. Those 2004 Senate gains are up for grabs in 2 years.)
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To: Terpfen

Good point, but from a hackers point of view, why target a few million macs when you can target several hundred million- a billion PCs?


104 posted on 07/01/2009 6:03:31 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Blue Highway

A billion Windows-using PCs? Not even Microsoft is claiming that they’ve sold 1 billion Windows licenses. Let’s stay within the realm of reason.

As for the “hacker’s point of view,” I already addressed that with my rhetorical question about sieging the fortress versus pillaging the defenseless villagers. Why would a hacker go to the trouble of breaking OS X—which is built on UNIX—if the motivation is to profit in some manner? It’s not worth the effort when this same hypothetical hacker can just go write up a quick Windows script and get a zombie network operating within minutes. The alternative motive is fame and infamy, but ask yourself: why is it that after almost a decade, none of these fame-seeking hackers have legitimately exploited OS X? Since the Intel transition 3 years ago, Apple has been a high-visibility target, and yet… nothing. Surely some hypothetical hacker would have exploited OS X by now just to shut up the hypothetical legions of brainwashed Apple fanboys, right?

So let’s be honest here, OS X has not been exploited not for a lack of effort, but because it has no gaping holes in its defense. There are very likely holes, but after 10 years of OS X’s existence and another 30 years of UNIX’s existence, I’m starting to doubt they’ll be found.


105 posted on 07/01/2009 6:35:30 PM PDT by Terpfen (Ain't over yet, folks. Those 2004 Senate gains are up for grabs in 2 years.)
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To: Terpfen
Terpfen, I said several hundred million to a billion. I don't know the actual number and I'm sure Microsoft doesn't either and I am not even including Linux users on PC's which should also be a part of the equation.
106 posted on 07/01/2009 7:00:59 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Blue Highway

I’m about 100% sure Microsoft knows damn well exactly how many copies of Windows have been sold, given that they make it. What no one knows is how many pirated copies have been used over the years.

Linux also runs on Macs, so what?


107 posted on 07/01/2009 7:03:10 PM PDT by Terpfen (Ain't over yet, folks. Those 2004 Senate gains are up for grabs in 2 years.)
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To: Terpfen

I also forgot to add the PC users with illegitimate versions of Windows. Worldwide, there may be more hacked/pirated version of Windows running than total Mac systems. I am not stating this as a fact as I do not know, but in third world countries where piracy is rampant you know there is a huge segment running Windows illegally. Millions upon millions.


108 posted on 07/01/2009 7:04:13 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Blue Highway

By definition, pirated versions are not counted on sales charts, inasmuch as pirated versions have not been sold. That’s why they’re pirated. Again, I ask you, so what? Whether or not your install base figure is accurate has nothing to do with whether or not OS X is somehow as insecure as Windows.


109 posted on 07/01/2009 7:09:02 PM PDT by Terpfen (Ain't over yet, folks. Those 2004 Senate gains are up for grabs in 2 years.)
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To: Terpfen
I am not arguing that Windows in any version is less vulnerable than OSX. I am just saying hackers motivation is to cause as much havok as possible. Were there ever crippling viruses for OS/2 back in the 90's? Hmmmm I wonder why not...

If you were on a deserted island, with only a handful of people alive after a nuclear holocaust, would you feel the need to have an ADT alarm system? Kind of how I look at Mac users not needing to have an anti-virus prog installed.

110 posted on 07/01/2009 7:15:14 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Blue Highway
Big deal.

My netbook battery runs 7 hours and should it need replaced I can buy a new one for 50 bucks and snap it on.

Oh it's also half the size of a Macbook (like, really, the size of a book that you'd carry around) and it'll run BSD with or without OS-X wrapped around it.

I'm a PC and I'm 51 years old.


111 posted on 07/01/2009 7:36:06 PM PDT by Clinging Bitterly (He must fail.)
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To: Blue Highway
I am not arguing that Windows in any version is less vulnerable than OSX.

Yes, we've established this. You're arguing that OS X is not inherently more secure than Windows and is instead merely left unmolested due to the relative size of the OS X install base against the Windows install base.

And I've already elaborated upon why you're wrong. You've yet to even begin to address my post 105, instead choosing to defend your estimated size of the total worldwide Windows install base. Well, that's great, you could very well be right when you estimate that there are up to 1 billion copies of Windows in use one way or another at this very moment, but whether or not you're correct about that is in no way related to whether or not you are correct about the relative inherent security of OS X or Windows.

I realize you're a little busy at the moment attempting to troll every single OS X-using FReeper, but come on. Back it up or don't say it.
112 posted on 07/01/2009 7:39:43 PM PDT by Terpfen (Ain't over yet, folks. Those 2004 Senate gains are up for grabs in 2 years.)
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To: Terpfen

I am agreeing with you that the nature of the OS built from UNIX is MORE stable and secure than any iteration of Windows. I never argued that. That the Windows OS is patched shows there are many vulnerabilities. I am not saying the only reason Macs are immune to attacks is because Hackers aren’t targeting them, I will admit the OSX is a more secure OS than Windows.


113 posted on 07/01/2009 7:47:44 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Blue Highway
I am not saying the only reason Macs are immune to attacks is because Hackers aren’t targeting them

Take out the word "only" from this statement and it's exactly what you claimed in post 96. You are now attempting to dodge by nodding your head at what I'm saying, but still disagreeing in the end. I'm reminded of the foreign policy questions of the 2008 presidential debates: Obama "agreed" with McCain on every point.

I will admit the OSX is a more secure OS than Windows.

Then why even say "It is well known there are less attacks directed towards Macs because of the limited amount of marketshare of users"? You have just contradicted your own post 96. Either OS X is not actively exploited because of the size of its install base or because its security is hard to crack. You don't get to claim both.

I guess you've got a bracelet too.
114 posted on 07/01/2009 7:59:21 PM PDT by Terpfen (Ain't over yet, folks. Those 2004 Senate gains are up for grabs in 2 years.)
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To: Terpfen

I do get to claim both. Who are you to make the rules where both cannot be applicable? That’s pretty bold on your part.


115 posted on 07/01/2009 8:44:17 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Blue Highway

Adherence to informed analysis is not bold, just smart.

You made an uninformed statement, got called on it, and came up short. That’s been happening to you quite a bit tonight.


116 posted on 07/01/2009 9:10:48 PM PDT by Terpfen (Ain't over yet, folks. Those 2004 Senate gains are up for grabs in 2 years.)
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To: Terpfen

Adherence to what analysis? That Windows has a much much larger (read 90%+ more) base than Apple? I asserted that was a big reason why Windows were more targeted. I also agreed with you that the UNIX built OSX was more secure from the ground up. Why am I not able to make both of these statements? How is what I am saying here uninformed? I don’t appreciate the innuendos of me being “uninformed” and “coming up short”. Again typical Apple snarkiness here. THAT is what I called out in this thread and you just displayed that ever presently, thank you.


117 posted on 07/01/2009 9:25:10 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

>Compare that with the many hellish hours on the phone with Mujibar in Bombay mulishly reading a totally irrelevant script to me as my blood pressure spikes into the stratosphere... no comparison. <

Chuckle. Been there, done that many times because of a Linksys POS router that’s now gathering dust on a shelf.


118 posted on 07/01/2009 9:45:35 PM PDT by Darnright (There can never be a complete confidence in a power which is excessive. - Tacitus)
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To: Blue Highway; Swordmaker
That Windows has a much much larger (read 90%+ more) base than Apple?

Taking a statistic you heard five years ago and misapplying it to make it sound as if you know what you're talking about isn't helping you. Windows' market share (the percentage of total product sold in a specific period) used to be 90%+. Its install base (the total amount of active product in use) is unknown. We know that there are 35,000,000+ Macs in use. We don't know how many copies of Windows are in use.

I asserted that was a big reason why Windows were more targeted.

No, you asserted that the reason OS X is not routinely hacked is because it has a small user base relative to Windows. This simply is not true. Windows is attacked because it is extremely easy to exploit. OS X is not attacked because it is extremely difficult to exploit. Period.

I also agreed with you that the UNIX built OSX was more secure from the ground up.

Coincidentally, you did this only after I made the assertion. If you actually thought this, you would have mentioned it in your post 96. You did not, because you a) did not consider it, and b) do not believe it.

How is what I am saying here uninformed? I don’t appreciate the innuendos of me being “uninformed” and “coming up short”.

There is no innuendo: I have flat-out said you are uninformed several times. Your posts in both of the threads you've started have proven this. You pass off third-hand knowledge and speculation as fact, fill in the wide gaps of your "knowledge" with ad hominem attacks, and then claim to know what you're talking about. Swordmaker has skewered you in the other thread, pardon the pun.
119 posted on 07/01/2009 10:07:38 PM PDT by Terpfen (Ain't over yet, folks. Those 2004 Senate gains are up for grabs in 2 years.)
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To: Terpfen

Swordmaker skewered me? You’ve got to be kidding me... He’s the biggest Apple shill here on FR. He claims “his research” shows that in a 9 to 1 ratio, PC users attack Mac users in threads here on FR. You think anyone would take that statement at face value and actually believe it? And you are calling me uninformed?


120 posted on 07/01/2009 10:19:58 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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