Posted on 06/19/2009 7:05:41 PM PDT by Artemis Webb
This idea is retarded.
Next they are going to change the nation’s capital from Washington D.C. to Tubman D.C.
I think Satch definitely needs an award named after him. I don’t think it should be the Cy Youngs.
No way to know that. A lot of his "stats" are based on highly questionable personal claims. ...like his claim that he won 104 of the 105 games he pitched in 1934. ...or that he pitched over 300 career shutouts.
Keep the Cy Young Award and find another way to honor Satchel. ...unquestionably one of the greatest pitchers of all time.
Why? Oh wait, I know...never mind.
Engraved on the award must be:
"Don't look back: Something may be gaining on you." -- Satchel Paige
This can’t be serious.
I have an idea — let’s rename the Olympics.
After all it’s been called that for way too long.
Yep. People like this writer try to impose modern views and sentiments on past eras. This is why there arguments are dumb. Lets focus on looking to the forward with regards to race as opposed to trying to make people feel ashamed for things they had nothing to do with.
Let’s just name it, and all awards, the Barack Obama Award.
What I make of it is that Charley Finley was kind enough to put Paige on the A's roster in 1965 for long enough so he could qualify for a Major League pension.
I’m still waiting for MLB to rquire every team to retire number ‘3’ in honor of the greatest ball player of ALL time, and the man who saved the game after the ‘Black Sox’ scandal... George Herman Ruth!
The job of the pitcher is get people out without allowing runs. While it's difficult to tell because of segregation (and limited availability of Negro League stats), Satchel Paige was almost certainly in the top 10 all time at doing that.
Ryan probably wasn't in the top 50. He was very good (and amazing to watch) for a long time. But Satchel Paige is one of the few to top Ryan in longevity too.
Bill James ranks Paige as the #17 player (not just pitcher) of all time. Ryan is #115. James says that Ryan ranks as high as he does because his system compares players to zero, and that when compared to average Ryan fares worse.
At the end of the day...Cy Young is still probably the greatest pitcher to ever pitch.
Maybe they could call it the “Eephus Award”
If it wasn’t named after Cy Young, Christy Mathewson would be as good a guy as any. Was just as good if not better than Cy or Walter Johnson and a BIG PLUS is that he served bravely in World War I, contracting the tuberculosis that he died of just a few years later. Everything I’ve read is that he was beloved. He was a devoted Christian, which has nothing to do with the award, of course, but I believe he lived a life devoted to others and to his faith in Jesus Christ. Look up his record, including in the World Series.
Of course Satchel Paige was one of the greatest, and he certainly would be in my top ten if he had been allowed to pitch in the majors throughout his prime. But that was not the case.
This silly idea of renaming the award after Paige, though, is simply PC white guilt. It would be up there with the dumb PC moves of "Bum" Selig, like retiring Robinson's number across baseball and having a "Civil Rights" game.
“Start a new award for Paige if necessary...but don't screw with 50yrs of tradition.”
I agree with that, but if look at the record there needs to be a separate award.
Regards
Y is for Young
The magnificent Cy;
People battled against him,
But I never knew why.
-Ogden Nash
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