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June 18 2009 | Niuhuru

Posted on 06/18/2009 9:19:07 AM PDT by Niuhuru

I just got rejected as a bartender mainly because the owner couldn't convince the girls to take me on and be trained and the owner for one reason didn't think I could handle it.

I might be wrong, but if the owner approves isn't it the job of the employees to take me on irrespective of their own personal wishes? Another example of the employees run the business instead of the owner.

I feel bitter because it was all going so smoothly and now this. He wanted to take me on, he approved, and now this.


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To: Vendome

Ammeding my post:
Their livelihoods are directly impacted by your ability and desire to support their mission, which is to serve customers promptly and fill orders accurately


21 posted on 06/18/2009 9:42:25 AM PDT by Vendome
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To: Niuhuru

Move on


22 posted on 06/18/2009 9:48:44 AM PDT by Carley (OBAMA IS A MALEVOLENT FORCE IN THE WORLD)
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To: Niuhuru

You either have never worked before or you have been spending your time in a school dorm room ( or your mother’s basement?). Part of working is being able to fit into the team ( unless you of course are self employed). Some times it is just not a good match and has nothing to do with skill levels or anything else.

Keep looking because there are jobs available. If you want to be a bar tender go to bar tending school ( yes there are such things) or take some hospitality and restaurant management classes. Just because you want a job doesn’t mean you get one.Perhaps you need to be more open or less open, more friendly or less friendly,less accent or more accent, any of a dozen things. Ask the boss what the other employees didn’t like about you so you can work on those things to make it more likely you will get a job next time around.


23 posted on 06/18/2009 10:00:28 AM PDT by the long march
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To: DainBramage

Actually if he is an active AA member he would be most likely to be the most reliable bar tender you have. If you mean he has fallen off the wagon and is drinking again, well then he is like a dozen or more bar tenders that I know


24 posted on 06/18/2009 10:01:54 AM PDT by the long march
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To: Niuhuru

Is this a unionized bar?


25 posted on 06/18/2009 10:16:02 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <----go there now,----> tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: Vigilanteman

Worst President we ever had!


26 posted on 06/18/2009 10:17:58 AM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <----go there now,----> tyrannysentinel.blogspot.com)
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To: sr4402
I tried to say it better and couldn't.
Yep!
27 posted on 06/18/2009 10:20:42 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: Zathras

Liberal are trying to get away from their rap and are trying to use the new term - Progressives. The only problem is that they are further left than the Liberals ever were and twice as crazy.


28 posted on 06/18/2009 10:24:05 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: sr4402

Liberals are trying to get away from their rap and are trying to use the new term - Progressives. The only problem is that they are further left than the Liberals ever were and twice as crazy.


29 posted on 06/18/2009 10:24:36 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: GeronL

Maybe. But Obummer is well on the way to dethorning him from that dubious honor.


30 posted on 06/18/2009 10:24:59 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or, are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: Niuhuru

Oddest post ever.


31 posted on 06/18/2009 10:34:53 AM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (We're living in the Dark Ages.)
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To: Niuhuru

He bowed to the wishes of his waitresses? Maybe he’s tapping one or more of them, and didn’t want to spoil his good times by going against their wishes.


32 posted on 06/18/2009 10:43:57 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Niuhuru
I just got rejected as a bartender mainly because the owner couldn't convince the girls to take me on and be trained and the owner for one reason didn't think I could handle it.

The words that stuck out are take me on and be trained. Generally speaking bartenders don't want to train others. In doing so, they are being asked to slow down, teach you what they know, and lose money in the process. There are plenty of bartenders out there who don't need that training and won't negatively affect the other bartenders if they were hired.

It's your job to train for the position, not other employees who will almost certainly lose a tip or two training you. It's inevitable, since training takes time and time is of the essence in bartending.

The fact that he does listen to them points to the fact that his team behind the bar is successful and he doesn't want to mess that up.

Certainly, you wouldn't want to learn at someone else's expense, would you?

I might be wrong, but if the owner approves isn't it the job of the employees to take me on irrespective of their own personal wishes? Another example of the employees run the business instead of the owner.

Ultimately, of course, it is the boss' decision. If he really wants you there, you'll be there. If he doesn't, you won't be.

My suggestion to you, from someone who bartended their way through college is this:

If you really want to be a bartender, get a job either waiting tables or busing in a bar and learn from there. In a few months, after learning by observation, ask for a shift during off-hours. That's how most people do it - they aren't just dropped into the job.

I feel bitter because it was all going so smoothly and now this. He wanted to take me on, he approved, and now this.

Again: He's the boss, it is his prerogative to use any criteria he likes for new hires, including that you mesh with the other employees. There is nothing new or earth shattering there at all.

33 posted on 06/18/2009 11:33:54 AM PDT by mountainbunny (Mitt Romney: Collect the whole set!)
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To: Niuhuru
My first consideration when I'm hiring is "Will this person fit OK on the team."

That being said... I would never, ever, publicly blame my employees for a hiring decision that's ultimately mine - even if they were the real reason. Thoroughly unprofessional and completely incompetent, terrible manager, poor decision maker. Consider how'll you'd feel if you work for this person and they throw you under the bus like that.

Be glad you don't work there. This is for the best.

34 posted on 06/18/2009 11:40:56 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Niuhuru

Why both to post if you are not going to reply.


35 posted on 06/18/2009 12:03:14 PM PDT by Ratman83
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To: Niuhuru
Sorry if you feel bitter, but the test of a person is, in my humble opinion, more how you handle your failures (disappointments) than your successes.

Try to keep a positive attitude, and I pray for you to find a better job with a kinder boss.

36 posted on 06/18/2009 12:07:50 PM PDT by airborne (Congratulations to the Stanley Cup Champions! PITTSBURGH PENGUINS!!!)
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To: the long march

That sounds hard to believe lol that he would be the most reliable yet you a dozen that have fallen off the wagon. Either way I was kidding.


37 posted on 06/18/2009 12:34:34 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: Niuhuru

Sorry for your loss. Now move on.

Sometimes employees run the owner.
Sometimes good biz owners value the opinion of their employees.

Don’t be bitter. Life isn’t fair. It is filled with opportunity.

ampu


38 posted on 06/18/2009 12:36:34 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: DainBramage

And I knew that -— sorry I didn’t include a sarcasm mark


39 posted on 06/18/2009 1:08:01 PM PDT by the long march
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To: the long march

Im very slow


40 posted on 06/18/2009 1:16:24 PM PDT by DainBramage
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