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To: GladesGuru
My point was that lions are not usually a gigantic danger when they wander into populated areas. Clearly lions can be dangerous animals, and they (and bears) do in fact get shot for being aggressive. A home-invading bear was just killed by a home owner yesterday. But most bears just steal a few apples and then move along. No particular reason to kill those bears.

And it makes zero sense to just run out and try and kill all the wild animals willy nilly just because two people get killed in a 35 year period. For one thing, the deer population around here would explode even worse than they have already if all the lions were killed, and even now, far more people are killed in Colorado in auto collisions with deer on the road at night than have been killed by lions. Now that I think about it, probably all the deer should be killed too.

67 posted on 06/17/2009 7:13:13 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Made from The Right Stuff)
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To: catnipman

“And it makes zero sense to just run out and try and kill all the wild animals willy nilly just because two people get killed in a 35 year period.”

The straw dogs are a howling! I never suggested, or even implied, killing all of any wild animal population. What I did suggest was that stopping the unconstitutional ban on the citizen being allowed to kill such animals as that citizen felt were a threat to him was a valid and workable predator management plan.

Upon reading the above sentence, perhaps it is too complex, therefore here is what I hope is a more clear version:
1. Remove any law/regulation which prevents the citizen from killing any predator said citizen feels is a threat to life and/or property.
2. Predators being quite stealthy, they will soon learn to stay out of sight.
3. Those too dumb to recognize their place on the food chain, and which allow themselves to be seen, will be shot.

When lions (or any predator) walk fearlessly in any place, they are a risk to man. Gunpowder teaches fear to the most savage of predators.

As for the “statistical argument”, that is an urban based debate ploy. There are no such cats in urban areas, but for the smaller number of people who are exposed, the risks are far higher. The Statistical argument” is based upon invalid premises.

Above all, who are mere Urban Liberals, commies of whatever stripe, or even Obamunists to OK even ONE AMERICAN ebing killed/eaten by a predator?

The real issue is the “land for habitat for the poor endangered critter” - which is the excuse for the collectivization of America.

Sorry - that won’t play in Peoria. Or on FR.


88 posted on 06/17/2009 8:42:10 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: catnipman; GladesGuru
But most bears just steal a few apples and then move along. No particular reason to kill those bears.

There is a saying - a fed bear is a dead bear. Bears will keep coming back to food sources around homes and get bolder unless fear is instilled in them.

When I lived in Colorado, my bear gun was a Mossberg with five rounds loaded in this order - bird shot, rubber buckshot, bird, 00 buck, slug. Basically, 'How nasty do I need to get with this problem bear?' First shot was a warning shot, and then you start targeting the bear with two non-lethal and two lethal. Had to get to two once - was out camping and a bear came into my campsite (remote, not a state park campsite). Fired a warning shot in the air, and the bear didn't flich - he had no fear of humans or guns. Second shot was the rubber buck into his ass.

Net result - bear now has fear of humans (ran pretty fast after that arseload of rubber buck). Probably improved his chance of survival.

Oh, and the rubber buckshot? It was given to me by a sheriff's deputy in my county. THEY understand predator problems.

89 posted on 06/18/2009 9:43:31 AM PDT by dirtboy
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