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Mishistory and mispercerption being spun round and round by both the critic and the author.

For example, the Velvet Underground were already recording their debut album in 1966. They didn't see the "door opened" by Sgt. Pooper.

And while the Beatles' lifted the shriek from Little Richard, they also took from Gene Vincent and others. Chuck Berry had much more influence on the Beach Boys and Chuck took from country artists himself.

And it is flat out wrong to think that "Yesterday" paved the way for Simon and Garfunkel. Crawdaddy Magazine (which was focused initially on folk) paved the way for the folkies' acceptance of the Electric Bob Dylan Band.

1 posted on 06/12/2009 12:28:42 PM PDT by a fool in paradise
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2 posted on 06/12/2009 12:29:57 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (There is no truth in the Pravda Media.)
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I remember someone talking about the influence that “the Velvet Underground”’s first album had on rock music.

Someone else dismissed it saying “they only sold a few thousand copies”.

To which the person replied “Yes, but everyone who bought one started a band!”


5 posted on 06/12/2009 12:35:04 PM PDT by allmendream ("Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be redistributed?")
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7 posted on 06/12/2009 12:40:00 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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so if I just like what u like we’ll all get along?


11 posted on 06/12/2009 12:49:06 PM PDT by VaRepublican (I would propagate taglines but I don't know how.)
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This Wald fella is smoking crack.


12 posted on 06/12/2009 12:54:47 PM PDT by Mariner
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David Lee Roth noted: "Rock critics like Elvis Costello because rock critics look like Elvis Costello."

I agree that he has been historically overrated by rock critics. Elvis is a good musician of diverse interests, but no particular work really stands out. OTOH, almost anything his wife (Diana Krall) covers seems absolutely brilliant.

Yes, I did mean to stray off topic because I am enamored of Diana Krall.

13 posted on 06/12/2009 1:01:06 PM PDT by neocon1984
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The Beatles were freakin awesome


14 posted on 06/12/2009 1:03:06 PM PDT by Canes101
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My, we go way back don’t we?! How did we end up here? LOL!


19 posted on 06/12/2009 1:20:43 PM PDT by EEDUDE
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Beatles. Overrated. FlameRetardantAsbestosSuit.


27 posted on 06/12/2009 1:43:41 PM PDT by wbill
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Bob Dylan and “relevance” destroyed Rock ‘n Roll. Rock ‘n Roll is about three things: Getting a girl, getting a car, and getting the girl in the car. All under 3:30.

Two greatest rock songs [noot necessarily within the3 min. 30 sec.parameter]: “Paradise by the Dashboard Light” [Meatloaf], and “Get Out of My Dream [Get Into My Car]” by Billy Ocean.


28 posted on 06/12/2009 1:43:52 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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You know, Beatles music may be abstract and “intellectual” at times, but at others, it’s as mindless as anything. You can dance to it. Not to “Yesterday,” so much. But what, was “Yesterday” the first rock and roll ballad? Didn’t Paul Anka, Bobby Vinton, Pat Boone (as the article mentions), The Platters, a thousand Doo-Wop groups, and so on, have a million songs just as sappy?

So, too, can you dance to a whole lot of “critical darlings,” from David Bowie to Talking Heads.


29 posted on 06/12/2009 1:59:56 PM PDT by Tublecane
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Thanks. Interesting. I’d like to find Wald’s book on Dave Van Ronk (Dylan lived with DVR for a while, and ripped an arrangement from him, putting it on his first album). Not sure I see his point about this one though.

The Beatles paved the way for the British Invasion (not to say that there had never been a British musician making it big in the US before that), which consisted (mostly) of a British retelling of various musical genres from the American cultural past. Sgt Pepper spawned a host of imitations from the Kinks, the Beach Boys, and many others. But “Revolver” and “Rubber Soul” (which preceded SP) were where the Beatles peaked, IMHO.


46 posted on 06/12/2009 4:15:18 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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