[Ditto]

So, James Madison said that:
"The compact can only be dissolved by the consent of the other parties, or by usurpations or abuses of power justly having that effect".

I agree totally. Can you point to the usurpations or abuses of power that occurred in 1860 that justified secession?

As Madison said in his letter to Webster in 1833, unilateral secession is nothing but a "violation of a faith solemnly pledged."

[stand watie]

and Madison is the final arbiter of all that is MORAL, LAWFUL and/or Constitutional???

i think NOT.

as i've said repeatedly, any thoughtful reading of the 10th Amendment to the BOR will tell the reader that unilateral secession was/IS LAWFUL & precisely what the representatives of each of the STATES intended.

EVERY power of each of the FREE states, that formed the union, that was CEDED to the central government were ENUMERATED. NOTHING was "left to guesswork".

free dixie,sw

[PeaRidge]

You said: "Can you point to the usurpations or abuses of power that occurred in 1860 that justified secession?"

Yes, I can.

[PeaRidge]

Madison also said this:

“Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few.”