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To: Non-Sequitur; Who is John Galt?
Likewise, in an earlier 1830 letter to Nicholas Trist, Madison stated the same:

“Applying a like view of the subject to the case of the U. S. it results, that the compact being among individuals as imbodied into States, no State can at pleasure release itself therefrom, and set up for itself. The compact can only be dissolved by the consent of the other parties, or by usurpations or abuses of power justly having that effect. It will hardly be contended that there is anything in the terms or nature of the compact, authorizing a party to dissolve it at pleasure.”

“or by usurpations or abuses of power justly having that effect”

What would qualify? Unfair Tariffs? Assuming powers not granted?

Non-Sequitur,

Yet, again, you defend Lincoln by using Madison?

Lincoln could not hold Madison's jock!

Lincoln was NO Madison nor Jefferson!Did Lincoln follow this line of thought? “Give me leave to say something of the nature of the government. . . .

Who are the parties to it? The people—not the people as composing one great body, but the people as composing thirteen sovereignties.”
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Or Mr Madison in this Letter?

It is fortunate when disputed theories, can be decided by undisputed facts. And here the undisputed fact is, that the Constitution was made by the people, but as embodied into the several States, who were parties to it; and therefore made by the States in their highest authoritative capacity. (Letter from James Madison to Daniel Webster, March 15, 1833)

Or this?

The State government will have the advantage of the Federal government, whether we compare them in respect to the immediate dependence of the one on the other; to the weight of personal influence which each side will possess; to the powers respectively vested in them. . . . (Federalist Paper Number 45)

Or this?

“The first question [how a state could secede without approval from the other states] is answered at once by recurring to the absolute necessity of the case; to the great principle of self-preservation; to the transcendent law of nature and of nature's God, which declares that the safety and happiness of society are the objects at which all political institutions aim, and to which all such institutions must be sacrificed. (Federalist Paper Number 43)

1,382 posted on 07/12/2009 7:09:36 PM PDT by Idabilly
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To: Idabilly
What would qualify? Unfair Tariffs? Assuming powers not granted?

Who decides that the tariffs are unfair or the powers illegally assumed? If you say the tariffs are unfair and I say they are fair, who says you are right and I am wrong or vice-versa?

Yet, again, you defend Lincoln by using Madison?

And yet again you attack Lincoln using nothing but your own bile.

1,392 posted on 07/13/2009 4:07:27 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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