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To: Colonel Kangaroo
It's fitting that there is an effort here to procure memorial bricks for Confederate veterans because the people behind the southern secession in 1860-61 were certainly a few bricks shy of a load."

For you information the last Civil was not fought about slavery.

Your statement may be accepted in some parts of the U.S., but it will not in others. My ancestors were all on the loosing side of that war, and were literally burned out of Alabama during Reconstruction. They played the GTT (Gone To Texas) option then.

They refused to be Slaves on the corrupt Government Plantation then, and I refuse NOW. I will die opposing the destruction of this nation.

To show disrespect to those who fought for the South is not acceptable behavior with me.

3 posted on 06/06/2009 10:00:18 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Once a Republic, Now a State, Still Texas)
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To: Texas Fossil; conservativehusker
I'm not trying to disrespect Confederate soldiers, just the secessionists who started the trouble. I've got a few reb soldier ancestors myself. I'm all for federalism and the proper division of state and federal powers, but the secession was less a principled expression of legitimate states' rights and more a political power grab. I think a man who personally knew several of the prominent sessionists, Oliver Perry Temple, had a good idea about the real motivation:

"The most powerful (motivation for secession), as it always has been, in revolutionary movements, was personal ambition. There was something peculiarly fascinating to bold, ambitious men in the thought of forming a great slaveholding confederacy, embracing fifteen states over which they would bear sway; with an aristocratic class to support their authority; with cotton, the greatest wealth-producing staple the world has ever known, as the basis of unparalleled prosperity, and with an obedient, servile race to perform all labor, and minister to the comfort and wants of this superior class as long as governments should last. Of course this motive was concealed..."

6 posted on 06/06/2009 10:11:50 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Texas Fossil
They refused to be Slaves on the corrupt Government Plantation then, and I refuse NOW.

Wouldn't it be a good idea not to use this metaphor in support of the Confederacy?

It's in poor taste and intellectually shaky when you consider that many of the rebels had no problem with had no problem with working slaves on their own plantations.

They may have had a case and a justification, but you won't find it by simply appropriating and inverting the best argument against them. Doing so simply implies that you don't have any real arguments for your position.

I will die opposing the destruction of this nation.

Spoken like a true Unionist.

10 posted on 06/06/2009 10:28:06 AM PDT by x
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