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To: Logic n' Reason
James5:12
But above all, my brothers, do not swear, either by heaven or by earth or by any other oath, but let your “yes” be yes and your “no” be no, so that you may not fall under condemnation.

Luke 8:17
For nothing is hidden that will not be made manifest, nor is anything secret that will not be known and come to light.

Col2:8
See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ.

Heb4:13
And no creature is hidden from his sight, but all are naked and exposed to the eyes of him to whom we must give account.

Great site, Ex-Mason’s for Jesus

http://www.emfj.org/

Take a look at your local Masonic lodge sometime. No windows, or all windows are covered over.

Freemasonry is full of rituals, oaths, symbolism.....these things the scriptures warn against.

The official stance of the Catholic church is repent or excommunication for delving into Freemasonry.

Freemasonry is know as, “The Craft”

Freemasons will say, “We are NOT a religion.” yet call the lodge a temple. They have a Worshipful Master, Masonic bible, pray to GAOTU. Yes, GAOTU = Great Architect Of The Universe.

GAOTU is whatever deity you choose to worship.

Do a little research and you will find many people left Freemasonry because it was in conflict to their Christan beliefs.

Research the writings of Albert Pike (Morals and Dogma)and Manly P. Hall.

http://www.saintsalive.com/newsletters/apr-may-00-nl/finney_masonry.htm

My former parish was full of Masons. They used to tell our priest and former priest.....we were here before you came, we will be here after you leave, this is our church.

Huh? Our church? I told my priest...is this not the Lord's church?

He told me not to pay attention to them, they have always been trouble makers in the church.

If some decision didn't go their way, they collectively began holding back funds, attempting to use church cannons to sanction or cause grief for the pastor.

My family and I fled this church...just couldn't stand it any longer. These guys were arrogant, certainly not humble, prideful, boastful......you name it.

This is what led to my study of Freemasonry. I attempted to research on a secular basis as well as on a Christian basis.

I for one am convinced that most lower level masons have no idea the true agenda of Freemasonry. To them, it is an innocent fraternity.

Read testimonies of higher level Ex-Masons...this is where you will receive the real agenda.

54 posted on 05/24/2009 11:43:46 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: servantboy777

“The official stance of the Catholic church is repent or excommunication for delving into Freemasonry”

You are wrong, the prohibition and punishment were removed long ago.


67 posted on 05/24/2009 12:19:28 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: servantboy777
Interesting comments to be sure; and I thank you for them. However, I'm very leary of those who use any religious text to "make a point" without much of anything else....be that a rabbi expounding on the absolute truth of the Torah, an imam screaming the absolute truth of the Koran, or a christian thumping the "revealed word" in the bible.
All of them give me the willies as in reality each of those books is based primarily on belief.

And one cannot argue or converse reasonably about a given topic when one participant bases their "facts" on a belief. When belief is used as the argument, then thought and learning has ceased.

Again, thanks for the comments tho!

124 posted on 05/24/2009 2:05:41 PM PDT by Logic n' Reason (GM = Gummint Motors.)
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To: servantboy777
Freemasonry is full of rituals, oaths, symbolism.....these things the scriptures warn against.

and the catholic church isn't?
no offense, but that's something that has always turned me off of the catholic church, the symbolism and and ritual, and at one point (when i was marrying a catholic) the demand for me become catholic and to promise and swear how i would raise my children.
i'm not trying to bash catholics here, i've never been to any church that doesn't have some sort of ritual and symbolism; the cross- empty or occupied, the flame, the dove, the star, the olive branch.. communion, baptism, confirmation, dedication, anoitment with oil, etc. catholics, IMO, just seem to take the ritual further.
236 posted on 05/26/2009 5:08:24 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (thank God for Chicago: makes Detroit look wholesome by comparison.)
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