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To: mcswan
They that you have listed are indeed biblical. Translated from original Greek and Hebrew text.

GAOTU however is not biblical and refers to each persons god as they understand him to be.

This is universalism.

Jesus is the great I AM. No one will ever see the father espousing GAOTU. To believe in GAOTU is to reject God's only Son.

You personally may not reject Jesus as the Messiah but the Craft certainly teaches a plan to salvation void of Jesus.

Hindu, Buddhist, Muslim and the like will all see heaven according to the lodge.

FM ancient Egyptian symbols is in of itself anti-Christan.

The all seeing eye, symbols of the sun god,Ra. Pentagrams, Triangles symbolizing perfect and divine man, Obelisk / Phallic symbols, Horus, mock resurrections, blood oaths, and lets not forget ol Hiram and salvation through imitation of him, not Christ Jesus.

You want to continue in this supposedly innocent fraternity, that's your business. I am only making it known to you that many many men to this day are renouncing their oaths to Freemasonry once they are made aware.

None of us is perfect, we all make mistakes. No condemnation, just a reality check.

Have you ever been in a Universal church? How about a Mormon temple?

Now, look around your lodge. Notice any similarities?

261 posted on 05/26/2009 10:39:27 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: servantboy777

First let me say that I’m glad that you’re a Christian, and am happy to discuss Christian theology with you. But on the issue of GAOTU you’re wrong. It does not stand for each persons God as he understands him to be, it is an acronym for the “Grand Architect of the Universe”, which is not even an original Masonic term; John Calvin used the description in his writings as a way of understanding, in a small way, the nature of God.

God exists outside of time and space; we are entirely incapable of a complete understanding of God’s nature, or to adequately describe Him. That is why we use familiar human characteristics to give ourselves glimpses of Him, to sense His presence in our lives as Elijah did in his cave. From the Bible we understand God in many different roles; as creator, as rule giver, as judge, as punisher of evil, as merciful forgiver, as comforter, as redeemer, etc. We use titles such as Creator of the Universe, and Lord Almighty, and Our Strength and our Salvation, and many, many others to understand Him in these various roles. The fact that we can only get glimpses of God’s nature, “For now we see through a glass, darkly, but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known”, is part of the mystery of our faith. Using different titles to understand different characteristics of God doesn’t mean we are creating false gods, it just means we are struggling to understand the nature of God as best we can, and as He reveals Himself to us.

I encourage you in your journey to understand God, and will not place obstacles in your way. But please do not talk of Masonry as an alternative religion or that as Masons we are creating false gods. I have been a Master Mason for many years and have a very good understanding of our fraternity, and I suspect you know not of what you speak.


262 posted on 05/26/2009 11:28:57 AM PDT by mcswan
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