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To: Non-Sequitur
So we have the last of the Nimitz class carriers. An emblem of the projection of United States power for more than a half-century. Appropriately named after the last World War II president. I fear that the closing of this class represents more than merely witnessing the normal run out of a given class of technology but a darkening eclipse of American power generally.

If America does not control the seas, just as the British Navy protected the sea lanes while they had the baton, the world will descend into a Hobbesian place. Is this what Obama wants? Does he invite the chaos so that he can submerge America into his vision of one world government? Or does he believe that the left now has sufficient power in America that he can exploit this platform, as American presidents for half a century have projected power from our carriers, to advance his agenda around the world?

The jury is out.


2 posted on 05/20/2009 4:48:07 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: nathanbedford
... the world will descend into a Hobbesian place. Is this what Obama wants?

Is there any doubt on whether life under our Dear Leader will be as solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short as he can make it?

8 posted on 05/20/2009 5:09:00 AM PDT by TurtleUp (So this is how liberty dies - to thunderous applause!)
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To: nathanbedford

The next leap in power projection technology seems likely to be unmanned remotely controled air borne weapons systems which have the advantage of not needing to carry a human and associated life support systems. So they will be faster, can pull more g-s, carry more payload per fuel used etc. Once these things get past the current preditor stage it’s going to be like tanks against calvary only in the air. If we can get over our Star Trek religion taboos about space based weapons systems there is a lot of power projection capability there too. Sad to see the “last” of the big carriers built if that happens. I watched the New Jersey go into mothballs. I doubt though that the Bush will be retired for another 30 years given how we hang on to these old ships and upgrade them as time goes by. I wonder what the motto of the Bush will be. Read my lips, no new taxes doesn’t cut it. If we really wanted to scare the enemy we should have named it the USS Cheney!


11 posted on 05/20/2009 5:20:28 AM PDT by dblshot
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To: nathanbedford

Nimitz is about 34 years old. ENTERPRISE CVN 65 the first CVN and only one of her class is a year short of 50. Onbe more carrier has been awarded the Gerald R Ford but the keel has yet to bew laid. Personally I wish they would end naming carriers after POTUS and return to Naval tradition.


12 posted on 05/20/2009 5:20:54 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgement? Which one say ye?)
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To: nathanbedford
Actually they should make ne more. "The Zero" and they can paint a big "Bull's Eye" on the Deck. It would be fitting.

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16 posted on 05/20/2009 5:47:34 AM PDT by wastoute (translation of tag "Come and get them (bastards)" and the Scout Motto)
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To: nathanbedford
So we have the last of the Nimitz class carriers. An emblem of the projection of United States power for more than a half-century. Appropriately named after the last World War II president. I fear that the closing of this class represents more than merely witnessing the normal run out of a given class of technology but a darkening eclipse of American power generally.

Why? Did you feel the same way with the phase-out of the F-14? This is the natural order of things.

If America does not control the seas, just as the British Navy protected the sea lanes while they had the baton, the world will descend into a Hobbesian place. Is this what Obama wants? Does he invite the chaos so that he can submerge America into his vision of one world government? Or does he believe that the left now has sufficient power in America that he can exploit this platform, as American presidents for half a century have projected power from our carriers, to advance his agenda around the world?

I'm no fan of Obambi, but this was on the schedule long before he cheated his way into the US Senate, let alone the Presidency. I'm not sure I see the causation you are referring to here.

17 posted on 05/20/2009 5:59:03 AM PDT by thefrankbaum (Ad maiorem Dei gloriam)
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