“—Why, if it indeed were a choice, would any guy choose a lifestyle that marginalizes him, gets the tar beat out of him at times and just makes life tougher?”
Just because homosexual desires aren’t inborn doesn’t mean they are chosen. As many people are arguing here, homosexual desires might be shaped by events and circumstances in childhood.
Of course, partaking in the homosexual lifestyle is 100% voluntary.
I don’t know how God slices the “100% voluntary” thing.
All sin can be traced back to Adam.
And most male sins and most female sins that I know about . . . can readily be traced back to
1. ATTACHMENT DISORDERS OF VARIOUS—usually very great—DEGREES.
2. SINS OF THE FATHERS VISITED TO THE 3RD & 4TH GENERATION—whether by spiritual, genetic or environmental transfer.
3. PROVOKING CHILDREN TO WRATH usually by DISCIPLINE without SUFFICIENT RELATIONSHIP producing rebellion.
Prisons are full of men (and I think similarly of women) . . . what is it . . . 97% or some such of prison men have had serious ATTACHMENT DISORDERED CHILDHOODS.
I wonder how an all knowing, Loving Almighty God who’s mercy triumphs over His justice will apportion it all out.
Are your bad habits 100% purely your own choice? I’m skeptical.
Yet, certainly we have the deciding responsibility—especially at some point.
The only place I will give you "environmental" folks an amen is gay sex in a prison. This is an EXTREME of environment, where young, sexually active males are separated from women, and will, on occasion, get release with a man. BUT, once they are out of prison, they will only seek females.
Back in the seventies, a group of envirodeterminist-whackos tried to bring up their little boys in a way so they wouldn't play war-like games. They failed miserably---this stuff is hard-wired in whether or not you want to believe it.