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Christian Symposium Offers Different Take on Aliens at Roswell UFO Festival
Christian News Wire ^ | 5/12/2009

Posted on 05/12/2009 6:58:19 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies

ROSWELL, New Mexico, May 12 /Christian Newswire/ -- Alien Resistance, a Christian counter-cult outreach ministry, will hold an all-Christian-speaker Symposium on aliens during the annual Roswell UFO Festival July 3-5th, 2009. The 11 participants include 4 PhDs, 2 doctorates of ministry, 2 pastors, 2 ordained ministers, and several pastoral counselors, with 12 books written between them on the UFO/Alien topic. The Symposium will educate on the UFO/alien topic from a Biblical Christian perspective, with emphasis on counter-cult evangelism, creationism, and spiritual warfare. The event is free for the public to attend, and will be held at the Best Western Sally Port Inn Ballroom. Tens of thousands of people interested in the UFO/Alien topic are expected to attend the Roswell UFO/Alien Festival this year.

Organizers assert that, "From a Biblical Christian perspective it becomes clear that 'aliens' are actually the evil spirits of the Bible. This idea is backed up experientially with the evidence of numerous testimonies of 'abductees', which show that 'alien abduction' experiences stop in the name and authority of Jesus Christ. Also the sinful behaviors of the 'aliens' behind abductions, the false gospels and new age messages they proclaim, and their supernatural powers so very reminiscent of those described in the Bible as being had by angels, all adds up to make clear that 'aliens' are in fact the evil spirits of the Bible."

Participants will include: William Alnor Ph.D., author of "UFOs in the New Age" and "UFO Cults in the New Millennium"; Gary Bates, from Creation Ministries International Australia, author of "Alien Intrusion: UFOs and the Evolution Connection"; Mike Bennett Ph.D., demonology researcher and host of "FutureQuake" Nashville-based Christian FM talk radio program; Pastor Russ Dizdar, Cult and Occult survivors specialist and deliverance minister; Joe Jordan O.M., alien abduction researcher and deliverance minister; Michael S. Heiser Ph.D., doctor in Hebrew Bible and Semitic Languages and author of "The Facade"; Guy Malone, author of "UFO Phenomena and the Bible"; Mrs. Malone, author of "A Modern Guide to Demons and Fallen Angels"; L.A. Marzulli D.Min., author of "Politics, Prophecy, and the Supernatural"; Pastor Chris Ward D.Min., deliverance minister and author of "Case Files of an Internet Exorcist"; and Stephen Yulish Ph.D., author of "The Real Story of UFOs."


TOPICS: Religion; UFO's
KEYWORDS: bigfancywords; icanhasdictionary; kookfringe; kooks; projection; pseudointellectual; roswell
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To: JoJo Gunn

From where I sit, it appears that you don’t have very many reliable insights or answers in this field because your tunnel vision is hardly larger than that of a small drinking straw.


121 posted on 05/12/2009 8:09:11 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: GingisK

NOT AT ALL.

You are simply and wholesale wrong about me and about my views on the topic.

Amazing.


122 posted on 05/12/2009 8:10:14 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Salamander

Hmmmmm.

Scripture exhorts us to trust no one nor anything which does not confess that Christ came in the flesh etc.

Thankfully, at some point,

every knee shall bow, every tongue confess that JESUS THE CHRIST IS KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.


123 posted on 05/12/2009 8:12:05 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: GingisK

I’m very glad of that.

PLEASE AVOID THE MARK OF THE BEAST AT ALL COSTS regardless of how friendly the ET may be insisting you must have it.


124 posted on 05/12/2009 8:13:14 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: GingisK

Certainly we all have a capacity to be wrong.

However, in this field, I’ve persistently put puzzle pieces on a shelf and waited on God to confirm them through multiple sources and ways.

Some things have distilled out as most probably mostly true.

Other things are still pending . . .


125 posted on 05/12/2009 8:14:29 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Indeed they will, like it or not.


126 posted on 05/12/2009 8:25:53 PM PDT by Salamander (Cursed with Second Sight.)
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To: Quix
Is there not any subject for which the proper response is not continued scientific inquiry but instead pointing at someone and laughing? Belief in geocentrism and vampires (as such) come to mind just offhand.

Flat earth society comes to mind.

This is not such a topic.

Oh, I have to disagree...this is comedy gold!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJUoiCdip7k&feature=related

127 posted on 05/12/2009 8:34:21 PM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (One man's "magic" is another man's engineering. "Supernatural" is a null word. -- R A Heinlein)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

Folks have turned mass murder into comedy.

Doesn’t mean it suits my taste.


128 posted on 05/12/2009 8:36:12 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
After 49 years of study . . . I have no doubt at all that you are simply wrong.

There are other people who have studied this for just as long and have concluded that it's a bunch of hooey. Neither side is likely to convince the other that it's wrong.

129 posted on 05/12/2009 8:39:46 PM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (One man's "magic" is another man's engineering. "Supernatural" is a null word. -- R A Heinlein)
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To: GingisK
The greys stink.

If that's how you feel, you might enjoy this book:


130 posted on 05/12/2009 8:42:52 PM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (One man's "magic" is another man's engineering. "Supernatural" is a null word. -- R A Heinlein)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

Probably true. I haven’t met any of them.

Time will tell . . . evidently looming on the near horizon . . . nearer and nearer.

I sure wish OThuga were not going to be “in charge” [pretense, of course] of managing such disclosures.


131 posted on 05/12/2009 8:43:13 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
Folks have turned mass murder into comedy.

Doesn’t mean it suits my taste.

Why would you compare the two subjects? Joking about mass murder is pretty much by definition distasteful and offensive, whereas joking about alien abductions is, well...not.

132 posted on 05/12/2009 8:45:38 PM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (One man's "magic" is another man's engineering. "Supernatural" is a null word. -- R A Heinlein)
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To: Quix
Time will tell . . . evidently looming on the near horizon . . . nearer and nearer.

I sure wish OThuga were not going to be “in charge” [pretense, of course] of managing such disclosures.

It's looming? How long will it take? If he doesn't make such a disclosure in the next 4 years, will you conclude that you were wrong?

133 posted on 05/12/2009 8:49:08 PM PDT by GL of Sector 2814 (One man's "magic" is another man's engineering. "Supernatural" is a null word. -- R A Heinlein)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

Depends on the context and audience.

I can enjoy some of the humor occasionally . . . even from the naysayers. When it shreds serious discussion so often, it becomes extremely offensive to most of us 150+ persons on the ping list.

Of course, thoughtless spoil-sport jerks enjoy having their fun at our expense and we can do nothing about it. Doesn’t mean we have to be thrilled about it.


134 posted on 05/12/2009 8:55:33 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

Have never met anyone who was right about prophetic timing, yet. Think I will. Haven’t yet.

There’s pressure on OThuga’s admin to disclose before the end of May. If not, Various groups around the world will likely encourage other nations to disclose more.

The speculation is that OThuga will not want anyone else to have that glory.

And, THAT’S WHY HE HAS DEFINITELY appointed 6-8 specific officials from Klintoon’s admin WHO KNEW THE MOST ABOUT UFO’S ETC. into PRECISELY THE KEY POSITIONS NEEDED TO MANAGE SUCH A PUBLIC DISCLOSURE.

That’s one reason lots of folks are anticipating it within 1-6 months. However, we’ve been down similar roads before to disappointment.

Though personally, I do NOT WANT disclosure. Because life will change unalterably for the worse at an increased speed once it occurs.

Certainly trend lines are clear. They will peak a lot sooner than later.

And, a lot of folks have speculated and some claimed that the “ET’s” will force disclosure if the oligarchy doesn’t go ahead with it.

We shall see.

Do you have your retraction, mea culpa, “I was WRONG” speech written yet? I wouldn’t suggest putting it off indefinitely.

Certainly the UK, BRAZIL, FRANCE, CANADA, SWEDEN have begun to release massive numbers of formerly secret files about UFO’s.

Interestingly, naysayers seem given to ignoring the wealth of data in those files and to go on pretending nothing has changed when a lot has changed.

And, 2008 had DOUBLE the serious sightings that 2007 had. Again, naysayers pretend nothing’s changed.

Talk about cluelessness. Sheesh.


135 posted on 05/12/2009 9:01:38 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: GL of Sector 2814

will you conclude that you were wrong?


It’s funny how nonsensical that question is.

It’s a bit like asking . . .

Do you know that 6 igloos times 12 dead armadillos = 3.elebendyleben hundred rabbit holes full of whale snot?

LOL.


136 posted on 05/12/2009 9:04:44 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Well it could be. I admit I haven’t read much about it the comparison.
I just have this impression of Alien abduction as being completely external and often focused on medical experiments on the body. While spirit possession in the Bible appears internal and doesn’t seem interested in medical experimentation at all.
I can see where any form of spiritism might result in bizarre memories though.
The Wheels within Wheels chariot is the only similarity I’m aware of.


137 posted on 05/12/2009 9:15:28 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

I don’t have the similarities on the top of my head . . . let me try . . .

—Jesus’ Name and Blood are effective against both.
—dabbling in occultic practices and materials opens one up to both.
—Evidently including, in some cases, horoscopes.
—Deception is wholesale in both.
—lies are common, the general rule, in both.
—half-truths and distortions are common in both.
—a clouded, diminished spiritual understanding and discernment is true in both . . . eventually resulting in a person unable to discern Biblical truth and more or less totally controlled by the dark forces in terms of construing reality.
. . .
. . .


138 posted on 05/12/2009 9:21:50 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
Given those similarities, what I would expect is that is no physical manifestation of aliens is present, but rather that a spiritual attack due the occult practices has left the impression of a lie, that of alien abduction.

I could see demons using acceptance of aliens as a strategy to get people to reject biblical truth.

I'm curious, just how Jesus' name is effective against an alien abduction? How many people claim to have repelled aliens through the use of Jesus' name?

But I still really really doubt that demons are manifesting physically and abducting people, as opposed to manifesting spiritually.

139 posted on 05/12/2009 9:48:51 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Salamander
On the flip side, what if God “created big” universes but alone, amongst them all, he created *us*?

I presume there are some interesting classes to attend once we "cross over" to be with God. In the meantime, all of this is actually unimportant. If it were importatnt, the Bible would have actually contained "clear text" on the subject. There is no "clear text" on this topic in the Bible. One must reach far with the language to come to the interpretations I'm seeing here.

140 posted on 05/13/2009 6:22:36 AM PDT by GingisK
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