[Quix]

ATS has a ton of Masonic contentious threads there.

I don’t know the precise nor whole truth.

And I have FR friends who get hyper hostile at ANY negativity toward Masons hereon.

However, I do know . . . that deliverance prayers and work have typically been MOST FIERCE AND TROUBLESOME with folks who’ve been wrapped up in that sort of thing—and the more wrapped up they’ve been in it, the worse the demonic stuff was.

That bunch of experience tells me about all I need to know on that score.

[Ditter]

It was social for my dad and he liked the charitable part, he wasn't that wrapped up in it. He went mostly to the Shriners rather than the Masons. I really don't know how they are connected.

My mother in law was pretty wrapped up in the Eastern Star, she even had me join (many many years ago). I think I went to one meeting and that was enough for me. I don't know if either of those organizations still exists.