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To: ResponseAbility; Salamander

How do you keep the govt out of it? When you have people who have 65 cats in a house & it is a breeding ground for germs & they aren’t caring for the cats? Or the people who chain a dog outside & don’t feed it & it is dying of thirst? Or the nuts who like to set cats on fire just for the fun of it? I don’t like the govt being too involved but there have to be some laws. I don’t like people who abuse animals at all & if I see it I tend to get involved. I guess it is because I’ve worked with animals so I see how abused they have been. I don’t think it is normal for a person to beat a dog,cat or horse to death or leave it to starve. I tend to think those kind of people are bound to have mental problems. I’ve read that children who abuse animals have a strong possibility toward being violent as adults. If there are no laws concerning the treatment of animals then who will stop the abuse of them?


86 posted on 04/30/2009 10:03:48 PM PDT by pandoraou812 (elected officials should be required to pass drug, alcohol & dementia testing)
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To: pandoraou812

Many years ago there were many ways for these kind of problems to be dealt with that did not include government. People would socially shame them and people would avoid dealing with them economically, and people in the church would offer to take abused animals and also help find people to take care of them.

Now that the government has taken over in so many varied ways, community involvement has devolved in to nothing more than an anonymous call to the police. Sometimes those calls end up with dead people and dead animals when the police arrive and start shooting(many times justified). And sometimes the police are used as a weapon by bickering neighbors, or the police go to the wrong place and start shooting at people and animals that have no idea why police would be at their home shooting at them.

It has been so long that community and church involvement was paramount as the best way to deal with these issues, that people think the government is the only way. With more government involvement comes more government control until we end up as a totalitarian state which we are getting closer and closer to each day.


87 posted on 04/30/2009 10:21:47 PM PDT by ResponseAbility (Government tends to never fix the problems it creates in the first place)
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