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A very interesting paper about the interaction between the troposphere and stratosphere driven by mesoscale weather phenomena (i.e. tropical storm systems).
1 posted on 04/23/2009 8:43:01 PM PDT by cogitator
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To: palmer

I hope it feels good to be proven right. Weather is definitely important to the concentration of water vapor in the atmosphere.


2 posted on 04/23/2009 8:47:45 PM PDT by cogitator
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many of them near the Philippines, Mexico, and Central America.

So the problem is not here in the US. We need to ban the Philippines, Mexico, and Central America. That'll do it.

3 posted on 04/23/2009 8:52:12 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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This is a hidden secret of the entire principle of MMGW. Scientists understand that CO2 is a trace gas. And mankind’s contribution to atmospheric CO2 is a fraction of that. So how could it push around the forces within the immensity of the atmosphere?

The only way is if all CO2 is carefully balanced, and if a tiny amount is added or taken away, some natural system will come along and amplify the increase or decrease of CO2.

This is an admission that mankind is not powerful enough to change the climate in this manner—it has to be a natural system that does it.

But it also means a search for the now dozen or more possible natural systems that could multiply the effect. And so far, they have struck out. They keep trying to find a natural system that will either release vast amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere, or strongly limit the re-uptake of CO2 into the sea and the land.

Mankind just can’t do it. We just aren’t that powerful.

Failing miserably to find such a system, the advocates of MMGW are in an ungainly situation: they refuse to admit *any* circumstance in which MMGW is NOT happening. That is, everything “proves” MMGW.

And as you might realize, that argument is nonsensical.


5 posted on 04/23/2009 9:01:00 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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Scientists at Harvard University have found that tropical cyclones readily inject ice far into the stratosphere, possibly feeding global warming.

Everything freezes in my microwave. What a bizarro world. 

7 posted on 04/23/2009 9:09:32 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Stop the pirates in Washington D.C.)
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Romps and co-author Zhiming Kuang, assistant professor of climate science in Harvard's Faculty of Arts and Sciences, were intrigued by earlier data suggesting that the amount of water vapor in the stratosphere has grown by roughly 50 percent over the past 50 years.

These geniuses have never heard of RAIN?!?

Precipitation.

Microlocalized 100% humidity.

Tends to move toward the pull of gravity, in case they're unfamiliar with that concept, too.

Fifth graders understand the Water Cycle. What a MoistureMaroon!
11 posted on 04/23/2009 9:47:18 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: cogitator; FrPR; enough_idiocy; Desdemona; rdl6989; Little Bill; IrishCatholic; Normandy; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

14 posted on 04/24/2009 2:33:07 AM PDT by steelyourfaith ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." -Lady Thatcher)
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