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To: Quix

Ah...you are talking Faith, not Science. I shan’t try to dissuade you from your thoughts on this. You believe in it, you are welcome to it. Items of faith require no proof.

But, don’t try to pass it off as science, for there isn’t any.
Items of science require scientific proof.


65 posted on 04/21/2009 5:19:30 AM PDT by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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I disagree.

I think you are much more into faith on the issues of the topic than I am.

Your criteria for believability . . . have latched onto the

RELIGION OF SCIENTISM as the ONLY ADEQUATE, EFFECTIVE, ACCURATE ARBITER OF TRUTH.

You seem to be blind to many aspects of that system and set of criteria which set you up to be UNABLE TO SEE truth, much less be able to analyze it accurately, fittingly.

There are many aspects, contexts, structures, systems in life and reality wherein hyper-objectivism OBSCURES reality and truth instead of apprehends and observes it accurately.

FAITH in HYPER-OBJECTIVISM obscures the facts of and the reality of and the dimensions and robustness of intimate love between a devoted husband and wife. DISSECTION is NOT the route of choice to truth about such a construct and reality. DISSECTION destroys the reality as well as is blind to it.

The GREEK route to truth that the RELIGION OF SCIENTISM arose out of and is still part of—is like that.

It is a useful system about some things—to a point.

However, even in a tailor-made hyper-obectivist topic like PHYSICS—quantum realities upset the hyper-objectist’s criteria and orthodoxy. Things are NOT objectively as they seem. Things are NOT precisely a lot of things as the dogma would normally dictate.

Similarly, hyper-objectivism trying to apprehend truth about UFO related realities is grappling with a complexity, realities, subtleties etc. which it is just ill-suited to make functional, fitting, productive use of. It CANNOT thoroughly apprehend nor analyze the evidence usefully. It is toooooo hogtied by it’s own REALITY OBSCURING strictures, dogma etc.

Literally, it has insufficient faith—even in it’s own system to foster a robust understanding of the true realities, the true truth.


69 posted on 04/21/2009 5:52:17 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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