That’s part of your problem. You assume anybody that asks a question is a naysayer, then you shout a bunch of insults, and never bother to even try to prove anything.
Yes your research. I assume you’ve done a bunch but the best you’ll present to anybody is root links to possibly related websites buried in posts filled with shouted insults. Boil down some essence, make sure to avoid the things you consider to be disinformation and hoaxes and bring it to the table. You talk a lot about logical errors, so obviously you know the rules of logical discourse, so you know that by those rules it’s the job of the asserter to defend the assertion.
If you don’t want to cast pearls before the hog wallow then why even have a ping list for discussion of the topic? Sounds like what you want is an echo chamber, nothing but true believers patting each other on the back. Discussions include questions, but you shout at all questions as flawed assumptions and balderdash by naysayers. You put yourself in a pretty bad light when a simple post of “got facts?” gets this: “GROSSLY FLAWED ASSUMPTIONS AGAIN”, for an answer. If there’s a grossly flawed assumption in asking you to present facts it would be an assumption in your favor (ie that you have facts that could be presented), screaming at the person pretty much says you don’t.
You’ve made lots of assertions on this thread. Including one about thousands of scientifically verified landings.
No . . .
naysayers have a kind of DNA pattern, cheek, attitude, surliness . . . that’s not that difficult to detect.
Folks interested in serious fair-minded genuine dialogue on the topic come across entirely differently . . . virtually ALL THE TIME.
I’ve posted plenty about my research hereon.