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UFO or not UFO? Area 51 declassifying pours cold water on theory..
The Tech Herald ^ | April 12th, 2009 | Rich Bowden

Posted on 04/13/2009 11:39:11 AM PDT by TaraP

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To: razorboy

However, I will say preliminarily . . .

I’m quite used to naysayers INSIST that they’ve never insulted me or others hereon

when the proof is in their posting that they have done so outrageously. Curious disconnect there.

I hope that’s not the case with you.


381 posted on 04/14/2009 1:15:45 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

If you won’t put forth proof why even bother to have the discussion.


382 posted on 04/14/2009 1:17:51 PM PDT by razorboy
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To: razorboy

I long ago gave up the delusion

that

discussion, authentic discussion

was

POSSIBLE

with most naysayers.


383 posted on 04/14/2009 1:24:55 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

you keep saying that, yet you never bother to put forth anything. I ask and I ask and I ask and yet you refuse to put forth ANY fact at all.

Seems to be that you’re the person that it’s impossible to have authentic discussion with.


384 posted on 04/14/2009 1:26:47 PM PDT by razorboy
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To: razorboy

I hope MOST naysayers feel that way.


385 posted on 04/14/2009 1:31:11 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: razorboy

Actually

a relatively small percentage of UFO books make any great profit.

So far, it looks like you may be right . . . I tended to lump you in with the others . . . perhaps because of tone or attitude or stance . . .

though you haven’t personally attacked anyone.

Sorry for my guilt by association classification.


386 posted on 04/14/2009 1:35:20 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix; allmendream

Sorry for the delay Quix..Computer Problems this morning!

I have something to say about what Jesus said and emphasized..He said in the Last Days..Deception would run amok! He wanted us to be aware and on guard not to be *Deceived* Could *Greys* been the one to decieve the people at Roswell? according to Corsi yes and no... They did not know if these Alien beings were here to do harm or good, yet they took there technology and ran with it....

We have benefited from that technology as well.

However Human beings..Wolves dressed in Sheep’s clothing are suspect...We have to evaluate what they say, their actions...*By there fruits we shall know them* they are in the pulpits and in the GLobal Political Arena..

I believe these are they hybrids/demons that out to deceive the world...

This is who I think Jesus is referring to in the Last Days.
The Days of Noah we are living in.


387 posted on 04/14/2009 1:38:46 PM PDT by TaraP (The RAPTURE: Separation of Church and State)
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To: allmendream; razorboy

Sorry razorboy according to Corsi it is ALien Technology..
Why would he lie? he was not riding the short bus to Area 51, he was very well respected.

Angels do not need spaceships...Maybe the demons lost there wings when they were thrown out of heaven..The Angels still have their’s


388 posted on 04/14/2009 1:42:47 PM PDT by TaraP (The RAPTURE: Separation of Church and State)
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To: Quix

It’s not a feeling, it’s the truth. You’ve got over 100 posts on this thread, most of them include a refusal by you to put forth any information.

You refuse to discuss it. And as your pathetic excuse you label anybody that asks a question a naysayer. Nothing but assumptions, insults and refusals.

We now know the truth. You FEAR discussion, anything that resembles discussion you insult and shout down, you declare the person a “naysayer” and refuse to put forth anything remotely useful into the conversation. You are EXACTLY what you accuse everyone else of being, a perpetuator of bad assumptions, balderdash, and every order of logical error. You want back slapping in an echo chamber not discussion. If you wanted discussions you would have posted a fact already instead of the dozens of insults and refusals.

You’re sad really.


389 posted on 04/14/2009 1:43:25 PM PDT by razorboy
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To: razorboy; ALASKA; ActionNewsBill; airborne; albertp; areafiftyone; aruanan; ...
If you’re gonna prove your case then you need to PROVE your case.

I think this may be a very serious disconnect.

My best guess is that MOST OF US on the UFO ping list do NOT HAVE A VERY SIGNIFICANT INTEREST in "proving" anything about it.

Most of us have read enough; talked to enough sources; AND A SIGNIFICANT PERCENTAGE HAVE HAD THEIR OWN EXPERIENCES AND FIRST HAND OBSERVATIONS SUFFICIENTLY to not need any more proof at all about the realities of such things.

THAT is old boring un-news.

Naysayers, therefore, and their constant pooping all over the threads . . . are annoying mosquitoes, hornets to be avoided. Too much of their presence and the thread gets avoided. Because OUR GOAL is to just discuss the various aspects of the phenomena FROM A PERSPECTIVE THAT PLENTY HAS ALREADY BEEN PROVEN.

You want to rant about proof--go to ATS.

390 posted on 04/14/2009 1:45:48 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

They don’t have to make great profit. Sitting at home cranking out BS books filled with lies beats working for a living, even if they only make middle class money on it.


391 posted on 04/14/2009 1:45:57 PM PDT by razorboy
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To: TaraP

Why wouldn’t he lie about it? Is he actually well respected? Or is he just another guy making money on it?


392 posted on 04/14/2009 1:49:06 PM PDT by razorboy
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To: razorboy

razorboy, no one cares if you think they exist or not, it means nothing to anyone here what you may believe. We are here to discuss what we find, not argue with moroons as to what isreal or not.


393 posted on 04/14/2009 1:50:59 PM PDT by stockpirate (" My bother George and I want Obama to succeed." Jeb Bush 4/10/09)
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To: razorboy

I think your assumptions here are mostly but not totally off.

I’m convinced that about the same time the UFO stuff begins to fall nightly into laps on the evening news . . .

THERE WILL BE CONCURRENTLY plenty of other super dramatic life altering, world altering, global tyrannical government, natural disaster sorts of stuff going on as well.

Folks hearts will be failing them for fear as the Bible warns.


394 posted on 04/14/2009 1:52:18 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

And now you go back to your old ways. It’s too bad, for a couple of posts there you were showing an inkling of willingness to actually be in a discussion. But now it’s right back to the flim flam colored text and shouts and the refusal to put forth any evidence.

You did just prove something though. You proved you just want these threads to be backslapping echo chambers of true believers. You proved your mind is closed, you fear your “evidence” being shown as no good.


395 posted on 04/14/2009 1:52:24 PM PDT by razorboy
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To: razorboy; Quix

You are wrong razorboy, as I said yesterday, when the Great Pyramids were built why didn’t other cultures learn how to build them? for cryin out loud human beings from the days of the Pyramids would of been able to benefit from those type of buildings..Yet where do you find them? Egypt, Pery Mexico the area of Ancient and Alien Influence.

Before 1947 we had technology but it was limited..
Corrsi said from the Transistor to Kevlar, to Fiber Optics, Laser came from Alien Technology not one human in the bunch..

Do you think Bell Labs, Monsanto, DOW, Lucent knew where it came from? No but did they benefit..*You betcha*!

This Technology will benefit *The One* coming the False Prophets of all False Prophets..Satan himself...
The Mark of the Beast.. The NEW WORLD ORDER will come to be because of Alien Technology...


396 posted on 04/14/2009 1:53:15 PM PDT by TaraP (The RAPTURE: Separation of Church and State)
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To: razorboy

You really need to examine the astronaut stuff in great detail. Particularly stuff published in the last 3-6 months. The older they’ve gotten, the more brazen they’ve become on the topic.

Otherwise, your assertions are just nonsense.


397 posted on 04/14/2009 1:53:33 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: stockpirate

So far you guys aren’t even discussing what you find. See discussing what you find would involve a presentation of facts. Something your side has directly refused to do under any circumstances.


398 posted on 04/14/2009 1:53:44 PM PDT by razorboy
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To: razorboy

Again:

HTTP://WWW.ANCIENTofDAYS.NET

and

HTTP://WWW.ALIENRESISTANCE.ORG

Guy Malone’s panel of experts and the hours of DVD presentations and testimony are top flight.

I don’t recall if Alamo-Girl’s recommended version of the BOOK OF ENOCH is on my home page, or not.

I think Guy Malone’s websites note which one is the more credible.


399 posted on 04/14/2009 1:56:15 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: razorboy

Is the speed of light slowing down?


400 posted on 04/14/2009 1:56:58 PM PDT by marbren
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