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To: MyTwoCopperCoins
Among others, it has a figurine representing, surpise, Muhammad!

And all those philosophers and religous men of the world are looking to one figure in the center. Who is that?

Moses holding the 10 Commandments.

There is no question that this nation was founded upon the Law and Justice of the God of Israel, and Christianity in particular.

This is what the Founding Fathers recognised, and realized the utter importance of removing Religion from what constituted the State.

When the original draft of the Establishment clause prevented the States as well as the Federal government from any establishment of religion, the clause was not ratified. It was not ratified until the CONGRESS ALONE was prevented. That in and of itself proves their intention, not to mention centuries of British common law and over a century of American precedence confirming the same.

What you proffer is a libertine idea, and wholly foreign to our founding, and our history. Our system simply cannot work without a firm and established Judeo-Christian ethic, in which, and for which, our Constitution was written.

As you readily admit, it was designed to accommodate the various denominations of Protestantism, which is well and good, for as diverse as they are, they are still of one very specific and agreeable ethic regarding law and justice. One God. One way (basically). Even yet, for all their bickering internally, the Protestant Churches are still the most powerful political force in this country.

It is a far cry from the multicultural insanity you would endorse. It was never meant to accommodate atheists, Buddhists, Satanists, Muslims, Wiccans, Giaists, Maoists, etcetera ad-infinitum. It is precisely this line of thought that has brought us from the melting pot to the cesspool.

Do some research on the term "True Religion" in it's context at the time, and then read the founding documents, letters and various patriotic hymns which were in the top 10 at the time, and you will be better equipped to understand the meaning our fathers meant to impart.

Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. -John Adams

"We have staked the whole of all our political institutions upon the capacity of mankind for self-government, upon the capacity of each and all of us to govern ourselves, to control ourselves, to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God." -James Madison "The Father of Our Constitution"


74 posted on 04/08/2009 3:39:58 AM PDT by roamer_1 (It takes a (Kenyan) village to raise an idiot.)
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To: roamer_1
 

 And all those philosophers and religous men of the world are looking to one figure in the center. Who is that?

Immaterial, and the figurines are equally sized. If you've seen the actual thing, they are not all looking in one direction... most are looking at one another; some to the left, the others to the right. The very fact that Muhammad is there, as a "law-giver" disproves your "Judeo-Christian-based government" mythology.

The prominent Founding Fathers, including George Washington, were Deists. I also recall reading the latter having rarely

 

"The rights [to religious freedom] are of the natural rights of mankind, and ... if any act shall be ... passed to repeal [an act granting those rights] or to narrow its operation, such act will be an infringement of natural right."

-- Thomas Jefferson, Statute for Religious Freedom, 1779. Papers, 2:546

 

"... the common law existed while the Anglo-Saxons were yet pagans, at a time when they had never yet heard the name of Christ pronounced or knew that such a character existed."


-- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Major John Cartwright, June 5, 1824

 

"Christianity neither is, nor ever was, a part of the common law."


-- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814, responding to the claim that Chritianity was part of the Common Law of England, as the United States Constitution defaults to the Common Law regarding matters that it does not address.



 

[When] the [Virginia] bill for establishing religious freedom ... was finally passed, ... a singular proposition proved that its protection of opinion was meant to be universal. Where the preamble declares that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed, by inserting the word "Jesus Christ," so that it should read "a departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion." The insertion was rejected by a great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend within the mantle of its protection the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mahometan, the Hindoo and infidel of every denomination.

-- Thomas Jefferson, Autobiography, 1821

75 posted on 04/08/2009 5:26:32 AM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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To: roamer_1

Oops. That should read, “I also recall reading the latter having rarely... gone to church.”


76 posted on 04/08/2009 5:31:16 AM PDT by MyTwoCopperCoins (I don't have a license to kill; I have a learner's permit.)
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