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The Beatles’ Remastered Albums Due September 9, 2009
Rolling Stone ^ | 4/7/09, 9:22 am EST | no byline

Posted on 04/07/2009 11:04:43 AM PDT by a fool in paradise

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To: ETL

Yep. John Lennon was a Red Dupe pushing Communism.

And he plotted to dope Nixon’s coffee.

And then he wondered why he was being investigated by the FBI and being denied stay in the USA.

I haven’t seen the recent documentary on his legal hassles but he deserved them and was an agitator who meant harm to our government figures. BY HIS OWN ADMISSION.


41 posted on 04/07/2009 12:07:03 PM PDT by a fool in paradise ( “Saving the New York Times now ranks with saving Darfur as a high-minded cause.”NYTimes Bill Kell)
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To: a fool in paradise

I suppose this will make a lot of people happy.


42 posted on 04/07/2009 12:37:00 PM PDT by GSWarrior (We have to act now before people begin to realize we don't.)
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To: BradyLS

Already have it.... Some 25 years ago or more, the Beatles released all their English release albums in a boxed set. I have mine and have played them relatively few times. Original covers etc... So what’s new?


43 posted on 04/07/2009 1:03:12 PM PDT by abigkahuna (Step on up folks and see the "Strange Thing" only a thin dollar, babies free)
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To: a fool in paradise

Choice of the date—”One After 909” or...
“number nine...number nine...” Hmm.


44 posted on 04/07/2009 1:35:12 PM PDT by raccoonradio
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To: andy58-in-nh
I think I’ll pass on one after 9/09.

Good one LOL

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45 posted on 04/07/2009 1:41:50 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: a fool in paradise
Doesn't Michael Jackson have a piece of this pie?

Doesn't he own the Lennon-McCartney catalog?

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46 posted on 04/07/2009 1:46:10 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: a fool in paradise
It says something about CDs when it takes 4 years of work to get them to sound like the records did.

If they're like what George and Giles Martin did on that Love CD, they'll sound way, WAY better than the records did.
47 posted on 04/07/2009 1:54:19 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: abigkahuna
Already have it.... Some 25 years ago or more, the Beatles released all their English release albums in a boxed set. I have mine and have played them relatively few times. Original covers etc... So what’s new?

I doubt there's anything new--other than a new set of discs that consumers without (like me) can finally purchase!

48 posted on 04/07/2009 3:01:03 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: aruanan
Re-mastering the Beatles catalogue

The re-mastering process commenced with an extensive period conducting tests before finally copying the analogue master tapes into the digital medium. When this was completed, the transfer was achieved using a Pro Tools workstation operating at 24 bit 192 kHz resolution via a Prism A-D converter. Transferring was a lengthy procedure done a track at a time. Although EMI tape does not suffer the oxide loss associated with some later analogue tapes, there was nevertheless a slight build up of dust, which was removed from the tape machine heads between each title.

From the onset, considerable thought was given to what audio restorative processes were going to be allowed. It was agreed that electrical clicks, microphone vocal pops, excessive sibilance and bad edits should be improved where possible, so long as it didn’t impact on the original integrity of the songs.

In addition, de-noising technology, which is often associated with re-mastering, was to be used, but subtly and sparingly. Eventually, less than five of the 525 minutes of Beatles music was subjected to this process. Finally, as is common with today’s music, overall limiting - to increase the volume level of the CD - has been used, but on the stereo versions only. However, it was unanimously agreed that because of the importance of The Beatles’ music, limiting would be used moderately, so as to retain the original dynamics of the recordings.

When all of the albums had been transferred, each song was then listened to several times to locate any of the agreed imperfections. These were then addressed by Guy Massey, working with Audio Restoration engineer Simon Gibson.

Mastering could now take place, once the earliest vinyl pressings, along with the existing CDs, were loaded into Pro Tools, thus allowing comparisons to be made with the original master tapes during the equalization process. When an album had been completed, it was auditioned the next day in studio three – a room familiar to the engineers, as all of the recent Beatles mixing projects had taken place in there – and any further alteration of EQ could be addressed back in the mastering room. Following the initial satisfaction of Guy and Steve, Allan Rouse and Mike Heatley then checked each new re-master in yet another location and offered any further suggestions. This continued until all 13 albums were completed to the team’s satisfaction.

49 posted on 04/07/2009 3:02:17 PM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: a fool in paradise

I had read here, on Free Republic, part of a Rolling Stone interview that John Lennon gave around the time of his Double Fantasy album that he’d become disillusioned with things like “benefit concerts.”

He remarked that they were mismanaged affairs by the organizers and people frequently used the occasion to press the artists for all sorts of freebies: the concert, concert album, appearances on behalf of the organizers...all sorts of stuff.

He saw the money flow in to the organizers, the concert itself often a mess, and very little flow back out to whom the concerts were for—and he and other artists donating their time and effort just for the (unneeded) publicity.

He probably still “believed.” But I think he understood that there _had_ to be a better way.


50 posted on 04/07/2009 3:12:24 PM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: a fool in paradise

What boring news. Never liked them and even if I did how many times can one buy the same tune and how many times has one heard it? I always liked the Stones but I’ve heard their stuff too many times by now. So I wouldn’t buy a super duper digital boxed set from them either


51 posted on 04/07/2009 5:59:39 PM PDT by dennisw (0gabe our very own Kenyan subprime president)
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To: newfreep

Thanks for the description of the process.


52 posted on 04/08/2009 7:01:41 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: BradyLS

Takes a bitter man to speak out on world peace and reprimand governments over wars when he couldn’t even get past his grudge with a childhood friend.


53 posted on 04/08/2009 7:23:23 AM PDT by a fool in paradise ( “Saving the New York Times now ranks with saving Darfur as a high-minded cause.”NYTimes Bill Kell)
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To: newfreep

“Although EMI tape does not suffer the oxide loss associated with some later analogue tapes, there was nevertheless a slight build up of dust, which was removed from the tape machine heads between each title.”

Wouldn’t a second “play through” of each cut have been even cleaner (since the dust over that passage of the track had since flaked into the playback system)?


54 posted on 04/08/2009 7:25:06 AM PDT by a fool in paradise ( “Saving the New York Times now ranks with saving Darfur as a high-minded cause.”NYTimes Bill Kell)
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To: Revolting cat!; 537cant be wrong; Aeronaut; bassmaner; Bella_Bru; Big Guy and Rusty 99; ...
Finally, as is common with today’s music, overall limiting - to increase the volume level of the CD - has been used, but on the stereo versions only.

The worst of ALL decisions they made.

In the end, this is just a trick to make it sound "different" than the old "bland" versions.

It might have made a difference if their songs were going to be played on radio next to P!NK and the DoDo Birds or whatever the kids are listening to today but (A) there isn't much Beatles played on oldies radio anymore (it's slowly moving from 50s-60s to 60-70s to 70s-80s cuts ONLY) and (B) the Beatles are unlikely to be played on a current hits pop station.

Remastering FAIL.

55 posted on 04/08/2009 7:28:54 AM PDT by a fool in paradise ( “Saving the New York Times now ranks with saving Darfur as a high-minded cause.”NYTimes Bill Kell)
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To: a fool in paradise
Another playback of the master tape could be worse depending on the type of tape and its' condition among other things. For example, the tape could be damaged with each pass over the head. Also, the posibility of stretching the master tape which occurred when a Jethro Tull album was being re-mastered.

The type of tape can also make a difference such as what was used for the Eagles "Hotel California". That specific master tape requires to be baked to restore the tape and then only usable for a brief time until it requires re-baking.

56 posted on 04/08/2009 7:40:43 AM PDT by newfreep ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." - P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: newfreep

Thanks for the added info. It looks like they are going back to the original session tapes (2-, 4-, and 8-track) to remix and remaster. If they do half as good a job as was done on the Pet Sounds remaster, then I’m in.

As for limiting, I’m OK with it as long as the volume variance in “Julia” and “Long Long Long” is fixed. I know they are supposed to be quieter than the rest of the white album, but when you have to turn up your volume just to hear the singing, they are too quiet.

I hope they don’t get rid of the tiny bit of feedback in “I’m Looking Through You.”


57 posted on 04/14/2009 3:18:31 PM PDT by MikeD (We live in a world where babies are like velveteen rabbits that only become real if they are loved.)
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To: dennisw
I never quite got The Beatles myself. I do like their early albums - up to Revolver. But after that, they got quite weird. Never liked Sgt. Pepper and the "White Album" was a bunch of crap.

The Rolling Stones were a much better band in my opinion - all the way to 1980's "Emotional Rescue". Should have retired after that.

58 posted on 08/04/2013 9:38:41 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: SamAdams76

“I do like their early albums - up to Revolver. But after that, they got quite weird. Never liked Sgt. Pepper and the “White Album” was a bunch of crap.

The Rolling Stones were a much better band in my opinion - all the way to 1980’s “Emotional Rescue”. “

There’s at least two of us. Those are my thoughts exactly.


59 posted on 08/04/2013 9:46:43 PM PDT by Pelham (Deportation is the law. When it's not enforced you get California)
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To: SamAdams76
Actually I thought Tattoo You was a great recovery from Emotional Rescue, which only had two good songs. TY in contrast had several great blues numbers. And back in the days when you couldn't hear a song unless they played it on the radio, I remember in the summer of 1981 having it on constantly waiting to hear Start Me Up, which was in the two-hour rotation. That opening chord series was electrifying, as the song was when they used it to open the 1987 tour.

I agree that the Stones are better than the Beatles were, but I thought the White album was very playful. And Revolution (or, on that album, Revolution 1) is one of their best songs.

60 posted on 08/04/2013 9:52:40 PM PDT by untenured
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