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To: Yossarian

Sun had a culture more like HP. Scott McNeeley was more like Bill & Dave. After the dot bomb implosion, Scott fought firing employees to the detriment of shareholders but I think he thought he was doing the right thing.

IBM like GE and some other NY state big corps are like a bunch of mobsters.

HP sucked while Carly ran it but she was an AT&T dialtone salesperson and another NJ AT&T/Lucent gangster. Lucent as she was leaving got nailed for inflating sales numbers.


3 posted on 03/25/2009 6:13:01 PM PDT by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: Frantzie

That’s true — HP’s *old* culture was more like Sun’s. Now, I’m not so sure.

There should be a rule etched in stone somewhere: NEVER allow a liberal arts graduate to become the CEO of a company started by engineers. It has wrecked every single one of the instances where it has been tried. HP is one, Digital (DEC) is another example.


5 posted on 03/25/2009 6:36:01 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: Frantzie

Yes, dittoes to what you say about IBM and east coast “mob” mentality. Except that Scott McNeeley was and is a big fan of brining in tons of H1-B engineers, so he’s not on my Christmas list either.

That H1B flood into Sun both hurt the engineering market, and I’ll bet my - ah, wait, I have nothing left to bet with - I’ll bet it had a lot to do with why SPARC lost its dominant position w.r.t. x86. Sun wasted TONS and time and money on projects like millennium that would have benefitted from a smaller but rock solid engineering team.


6 posted on 03/25/2009 6:41:41 PM PDT by Yossarian (Everyday, somewhere on the globe, somebody is pushing the frontier of stupidity...)
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