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Mother lets three year old stray around neighborhood
Vanity ^ | March 24, 2009 | Vanity

Posted on 03/24/2009 3:51:11 PM PDT by Judith Anne

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To: Judith Anne

On the same day, an 18 month old and a two year old (not related) were wandering out in front of my house. I called the police, but brought them in. The mother of the 18 month old was grateful and happy. He was a twin and my twins were about two years old at the time, so we had something in common. The “parents” of the three year old got hold of their son and beat him. I wilted inside.
Call the police. It may be the best thing for the child.


21 posted on 03/24/2009 5:00:00 PM PDT by Excellence (What Madoff is to finance Gore is to global warming.)
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To: autumnraine
In our state, a child must be 14 years old to be left in charge of another child. They have to be 11 to be home alone for no more than 2 hours.

Apparently, Kansas has no written standards, therefore it is left to the judgement of child-savers with too much time on their hands. In 1987, my 3 step-children were confirmed as neglected when they were left at home alone whiletheir father worked an eight hour shift --- they were ages 13, 15 and 16.... yes, years, not months

22 posted on 03/24/2009 5:01:04 PM PDT by eccentric (a.k.a. baldwidow)
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To: Gil4

That makes sense.

I’m forwarding a link to this thread to my daughter, so she can keep track of everyone’s answers.


23 posted on 03/24/2009 5:01:24 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Judith Anne
IMO, they haven't gone far enough.

If that child gets abducted or hit by a car, you will wish you had done more.

CALL THE POLICE.

24 posted on 03/24/2009 5:02:22 PM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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To: Judith Anne

Sorry to tell you this is nothing new. I used to live in an apt complex south of Seattle with alot of section-8 types. One day, maybe 15 years ago, I saw two toddlers, approx 18mos and 3 y/o, wandering around in the parking lot in their pj’s in October weather. All I could do was take them to the mgr’s ofc. She knew right away who they belonged to and called mom’s apt to come pick them up. Apparently, mom (single, of course)was sleeping something off.


25 posted on 03/24/2009 5:14:16 PM PDT by Catmom
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To: Marie2

“Do unto others as you would have done unto you.”

Sound advice but wrongly applied. She should do unto the child as the child within her, or even the child, would want to have happen to her in the same set of circumstances, being abandoned and not looked after.

She should call the police so the child can get the care it needs.


26 posted on 03/24/2009 5:14:35 PM PDT by stockpirate (April 15 join the tax revolt tea parties.)
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To: Marie2

IMHO, I absolutely agree with Marie “he won’t be 3 forever show kindness”. My husband grew up in foster homes & most are horrendous. This is your daughter’s chance to make a difference in a young child’s life & be a good example to her own children. What do you think child services is going to do? If you complain either the child will be taken away or the parents will get angry at the child.
If you know there is physical abuse then it should be reported or talk to the parents.


27 posted on 03/24/2009 5:14:51 PM PDT by classical artist
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To: Judith Anne

tell them to call police and child protective services, for the sake of BOTH the 3 yr old and the 11 yr old

the kids seem neglected and there should be an investigation


28 posted on 03/24/2009 5:16:00 PM PDT by silverleaf (Freedom's just another word for "nothing left to lose")
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To: All

I just went back and read the initial post I made, it’s clear that I’m protective of MY family, much more than concerned about the 3 yo.

I’m not heartless, but I just have the feeling that the mother of this little 3 yo boy wouldn’t hesitate to cause harm or make accusations to my daughter or her children if something, God forbid, should happen to her neglected 3 yo.

Shame on me, it is still my biggest concern.


29 posted on 03/24/2009 5:28:29 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Judith Anne

Sounds reasonable to me.


30 posted on 03/24/2009 5:55:14 PM PDT by Vor Lady (Viva la Revolution!)
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To: Judith Anne

My daughter was living in an apartment going to nursing school and knew her next door neighbor was a single young man, but had seen one girl visit him that had a baby. One night she was studying and heard her neighbor and some female argueing and then doors slam. After a bit she heard a baby crying, and crying, and realized no one was tending to it since the crying was so loud and she heard no movement next door. She went out her door and the neighbor’s door was wide open and she could see in the apartment the baby strapped in a car seat crying it’s heart out. My daughter went in and yelled, no adults there- she found the diaper bag and took the baby out of the seat and changed it and got it a bottle she found; then called me for advice. I told her to call the police ASAP- The police came and while they were questioning everyone nearby the single man that lived there returned. He said he left when he and the girl were fighting and had no idea she would leave the baby or where she went. The mother did return and claimed she left the baby to try to go find the man- oh what a mess- but police did get child protective services to get the baby. The landlady was so mad she evicted the young man- told him if he would even date someone that sorry she didn’t want him for a rentor. I understood why my daughter entered that apt to care for the baby, and in truth I would likely have done the same but I worried so much that it would cause her problems- luckily it didn’t. Some people are just no part parents.


31 posted on 03/24/2009 7:16:02 PM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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To: Tammy8

Those kind of people scare me, too, for the same reasons.

They’ll neglect their children, but blame everyone else if something happens to the child, engage in attention getting behavior at the expense of responsible people...


32 posted on 03/24/2009 7:22:09 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: grellis

You are assuming that being in foster care is better for this child than being allowed to wander.

That is not necessarily the case.

In the case of actual physical abuse, I think it’s best to go to foster care. There are some truly great foster parents out there. You might get one.

In the case of neglect, it is probably better to stay with your family. If you don’t agree with me, talk to a few survivors of the foster care system. One has posted above.


33 posted on 03/24/2009 7:42:07 PM PDT by Marie2 (I don't know what that bird told you, but I'M Brian Fellows)
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To: Judith Anne; Marie2; classical artist
I'm going to side with Marie2 & CA on this one. IMO if one can be a good example for a 'lost' kid its a positive thing. I know the worries one has now a days, but, again IMO, its worth it if it helps the kid.
I'm not criticizing your decisions, just giving another perspective.

I've got a 13 yr old and had a few kids like this who were/are friends of his. Sometimes a kid just needs a place to feel secure. They need to know where the walls are that hold their life.
34 posted on 03/24/2009 8:05:18 PM PDT by Tainan (Where's my FOF Indicator?)
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To: Tainan

I’m siding with the other posters, because this child is not an appropriate age to go to other people’s houses and play, unless arrangements were made with parents ahead of time for limited time.

A 3 yo is too young for independent roaming.


35 posted on 03/24/2009 11:08:02 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Marie2
I am assuming absolutely nothing of the kind. Read my post again. Do I suggest, even once, that a DPS style agency be contacted? No, I do not. Do I suggest that contacting law enforcement should be at the top of the list? No, I do not. I assert that it should be a last resort. Allowing a 3-year old child to wander off alone (and leaving said child in the care of the 11-year old is, in this case, the same thing) is absolutely unacceptable. JA's daughter is in the right in putting her foot down. If said 3-YO were to be injured on a neighbor's property, it's the innocent neighbor that's going to get the first scrutiny from DPS or law enforcement, not the parents of the wandering youngster. That's the world we live in.
36 posted on 03/25/2009 5:43:05 AM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: Misterioso

It would have been good advice when I was growing up (1960s). Nowadays, I just don’t know.


37 posted on 03/25/2009 6:19:04 AM PDT by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: Marie2

I would agree with you if this were the 50’s, 60’s and even into the 70’s, but not in todays world. NO WAY!


38 posted on 03/25/2009 6:49:34 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (Want to make a conservative angry? Lie to him. Want to make a liberal angry? Tell him the truth)
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To: Gil4

That’s good advice! Let them fix the situation before taking such drastic measures as calling the cops or DCF/DSS/DYFS or whatever your particular state calls the outfit.


39 posted on 03/25/2009 6:52:17 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (Want to make a conservative angry? Lie to him. Want to make a liberal angry? Tell him the truth)
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To: Judith Anne
Shame on me, it is still my biggest concern.

As it should be! And you are well within your rights. Good on ya, mom/grandmom! By extension, you are also looking out for the 3yo's interests, and doing the right thing!

40 posted on 03/25/2009 6:54:11 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (Want to make a conservative angry? Lie to him. Want to make a liberal angry? Tell him the truth)
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