Posted on 03/11/2009 3:47:01 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
LOL! How adorable!!
You are of course entitled to your opinions.
How does that change about how anyone feels about social disapproval of premarital sex or single parenthood?
He is indeed cute as a button.
There is evidence I’ve seen that neonates can recognise suitably modulated versions of the mother’s voice to simulate the acoustic effect of the various insulative and conductive consequences of the sound being heard in utero, but there is no evidence of which I’m aware that demonstrates conclusively that neonates recognise the unmodulated maternal voice except through association over the initial bonding period.
Well, since you won’t answer my question, I’m of the opinion that you were given away by a single mother and harbor resentment towards her. I would venture to say that you were given to a “suitable married couple” to use your words. I find it remarkable that you have never used the words “loving married couple”. There’s a huge difference. In fact, I’ve noticed that you’ve never used the word love in any of your posts....how revealing.
*snort* You are SO right about that! My mom grew up in a little ol’ town way up in northern Maine. The kind of town you drive through, blink and miss. There were 15 kids in her graduating class. A couple of girls had dropped out previously, ‘going to visit Auntie Mae in Chicago’. 5 of the graduating girls had shotgun weddings that summer. A couple stayed together, the other three divorced, a couple of the women had a really rough marriage (abuse).
My grandmother - who grew up in the same town - talked about a middle-aged family with a teen daughter. The whole family just up and moved to Boston for a year. Lo and behold, when they returned, they had ‘adopted’ a baby! Even though they had kids close to 30! There were a few others who had ‘late in life children’ shortly after their teen daughter went away for a few months. Babies were raised as siblings to their bio-parents. Didn’t Jack Nicholson find out as an adult that his sister was really his mother? It went on a LOT. Averaged out, my mother had way more pregnant teens in her school in the 50s than my kids today have in theirs.
It’s more revealing of your propensity to psychologise those with whom you disagree, I’m afraid.
Again, your anecdotes do not overwhelm the documented statistics.
Pre-marital sex, illegitimacy and divorce were all far less common prior to the introduction of the Pill and the commencement of the Sexual Revolution.
Scoff if you like; things are getting measurably worse day by day.
You are so correct! How could you ask any parent to give this bundle of joy to someone else? I know there are terrible parents but they are few and far between. Just because one is not wed, does not mean they couldn't give him a life he deserves.
C'mon, I know in the intellectual world you have a view but in the real world, could you just give him away to someone else?
Don’t children deserve committed fathers from day one?
This is the bottom line issue; babies are just as cute to adoptive parents as anyone else.
I wish there were more babies available for adoption. Used to work with a wonderful woman, would have made the best mother (certainly better than myself), I so wished she could have a child made available to her.
Bottom line, we all love our kids and better or worse, they are stuck with us. I'm so happy there are invitro fertilization clinics to help those who can't have their own.
In vitro is part of the problem, not the solution. It furthers the notion that only biological children are REAL children.
You do realize so many children that are available for adoption today come from drug addicted or booze addicted mothers? A child born with fetal alcohol syndrome comes with irreversible mental problems. A mother who was addicted to coke, meth or any of those others drugs has a far more adoptable child.
No, invitro fertilization assures non-drug addicted parents.
Meeting the birth mother and clear pre-natal screening accomplishes the same end without perpetuating the notion that biology alone is the sine qua non of “real” parenthood.
And to all those holier than thou types who are so quick to judge Sarah Palin and throw her under the bus because of what her daughter did, remember the words of Jesus. He who is without sin cast the first stone. Judge not lest thou be judged.
Free Republic is to be the place for real honest news, not tabloid crap.
“Smell: Newborns have a very well-developed sense of smell that makes them very choosy about their favorite scent. In the first days of life, a newborn can recognize his or her mother’s natural scent and likes it best of all.”
“Hearing: Babies can hear while they are still inside the womb. At birth, they can recognize their mother’s voice – because they have heard it for several months.”
http://rileychildrenshospital.com/parents-and-patients/caring-for-kids/yournewbornbabychpt2.jsp
“Even before we were born, we knew our mother’s voice and could distinguish it from other voices”
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=97635&page=1
for eye and hearing problems before they leave the NICU and at regular intervals following that.
“for eye and hearing problems before they leave the NICU and at regular intervals following that.
“Eyesight Newborn babies seem to love human faces. Although their vision is quite blurry at first, they can see well enough to focus on their mother’s face when being held to the breast. Within the first few hours after birth, newborn babies can tell the difference between their mother’s face and the face of someone else.”
Omg! Those dimples! Those cheeks! I just wanna grab him and give him a big smooch on those fat little cheeks! (Give him one for me.) What a cutie pie!
All of this reinforces what I’ve already said: the children bond to the mother in first days of birth, not before.
The issue of children recognising voices is clearly complicated by the fact that the mother’s voice sounds different in utero than in the open air.
Claims that the baby immediately recognises the mother’s voice without modulation have not been documented by any research of which I’m aware.
You know, pretty much I have just read your posts and gone on. But I have to say I KNOW the statistics. I know that most single moms struggle, that it’s a much harder row to hoe for the kids, that it’s not ideal. I would not live with my husband before marriage, we would live together as husband and wife when we legally were. That’s not to put anyone down who does differently, it’s just how I felt about it. Our sons were born 2 and 7 years after marriage.
I BELIEVE in marriage, in the sanctity of marriage, in keeping your vows. I truly believe that the best thing for a child, any child, would be to be born to two parents who want him and love him and will take care of him. But we live in the real world and it doesn’t always happen like that. Many kids would be content with ONE parent who wants them, loves them and takes care of them. But it’s not our call as to who gets to keep their kid and who doesn’t. It’s a slippery slope to then deciding who gets to have kids at all.
So stop acting as though everyone here is pro teen parenting and thinks it’s just the greatest thing since sliced bread. We all know families where it worked fine and we all know ‘intact’ families where the kids are neglected or abused. And the opposite is true too. But we don’t get to give other’s kids away, or even get a vote in it. It’s a private family matter, in this case at least, and I’m pretty sure the Palin grandchild is going to have a pretty darn good life.
How can you call anyone “holier-than-thou” without making a judgment? Or is judgment something you reserve only for yourself and people with whom you agree?
There’s a difference between judging people and judging their actions, or else there is no longer any such thing as sin or crime.
So please don’t try that libertine “judge not” foolishness on anyone who knows why he believes what he believes.
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