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Report: Bristol Palin and Fiancé Split
TODAY ^ | 03.11.09 | STAFF

Posted on 03/11/2009 3:47:01 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay

The pair, parents to 2-month-old son Tripp, broke up 'a few weeks ago'

Bristol Palin and her fiancé Levi Johnston have broken up, two sources tell PEOPLE.

The split happened "a few weeks ago," according to a source close to the couple, but it's unclear what precipitated it. "It was a mutual thing," adds the source.

"It kind of just happened," says the source, referring to the split. "I thought they would stick it out. But I think they can work together to raise Tripp."

Despite the breakup, Levi still sees the couple's son. Levi's dad, Keith Johnston, told PEOPLE recently that his son is a devoted and "proud father."

Bristol, meanwhile, is attending Wasilla High, taking a class to supplement course work she is completing at home. She also is considering enrolling in college next fall and studying nursing.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: bristol; bristolpalin; gossip; levi; levijohnston; palin; palinfamily; rumors; tabloid
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To: Philo-Junius
Bristol ceased being a private citizen when she accepted an interview with Greta Van Susteren to pronounce abstinence education “not realistic.”

Bullshit! You've been trashing her long before that.

You are so full of it, you are disgusting.

501 posted on 03/11/2009 9:31:10 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Shyla

If I gave the impression that I thought the children of single parent households are doomed to failure I apologise entirely; that was not my intent.

It IS my intent though to uphold the social norm of committed married parents as the NORM, not the practically unattainable “ideal”—as though it were the equivalent of bowling a 300 or pitching a 27-pitch perfect game.

And I DO mean to criticise those who have the ability to give children two married committed parents but choose not to do so because it causes THEM (the parent) discomfort or guilt to do so.


502 posted on 03/11/2009 9:35:21 PM PDT by Philo-Junius
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To: Victoria Delsoul

Got link?

Or just a potty mouth?


503 posted on 03/11/2009 9:39:04 PM PDT by Philo-Junius
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To: Victoria Delsoul

well if you don’t have a job or an education and you have a baby out of wedlock then you have to depend on others and that’s not right.


504 posted on 03/11/2009 9:40:19 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Hail to the Dork!)
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To: Philo-Junius

Good post.

Look at your last paragraph

And I DO mean to criticise those who have the ability to give children two married committed parents

My point is and will alway be, what good would be to a child without committed parents?

We seem to have been spinning our wheels here.

Parents being married because they had a child and are not committed, not good. Not good at all.

A child that do not have parents that ARE NOT committed and do not really love each other, has a rough future.

This is why I think that Miss Palin made the right choice to not get married.

I can not and will not back down from that. This baby will be in the spotlight no matter what. She did make the right decision for her and the baby.


505 posted on 03/11/2009 9:42:14 PM PDT by Shyla
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To: ari-freedom

It’s a mistake, I think, to view this primarily in terms of “how much immorality one can pay to paper over,” although many utilitarians are at least brought to the realisation that there might be a long-term problem with illegitimacy by that line of enquiry.

The bottom-line question is do children deserve married, committed parents, and what are the consequences of the failure of society to maintain that norm?


506 posted on 03/11/2009 9:43:25 PM PDT by Philo-Junius
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To: Shyla

We are in violent agreement on the question of Bristol marrying Levi.

I just differ with you, it seems, on what the best way forward from that assessment is: I vote for adoption to suitable parents.


507 posted on 03/11/2009 9:45:12 PM PDT by Philo-Junius
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To: ari-freedom
even if it would be the best thing for the child if he was raised by a stable, secure family?

And the Palin family is what??

This is whole conversation is stupid. Bristol Palin does not live in the projects and is not on WIC. And we have no evidence that Levi will be an absent dad.

508 posted on 03/11/2009 9:46:24 PM PDT by southern rock
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To: Philo-Junius

Of course children do deserve a well rounded family.

No doubt.


509 posted on 03/11/2009 9:47:45 PM PDT by Shyla
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To: southern rock

So Levi will be reading the bed-time stories and comforting Tripp from his nightmares? When he isn’t on the North Slope for 6 months out of the year?

“Absent dad” clearly means something entirely different to you than it does to me.


510 posted on 03/11/2009 9:51:45 PM PDT by Philo-Junius
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To: Philo-Junius

Put it like this.

Your daughter wants the baby. You are the grandparent and have no problems with that.

Would your heart not ache knowing that your grandchild was out there, without you?

Me? If my child wanted the baby, pry that grandchild from my hands.

I have to say, if it was my child and they DID NOT want the baby.... the baby is me and my blood, I would raise the child and smile the whole time.

Blood is blood.

Would you be able to know that a part of you is out in the world with strangers instead of family?

Not me.


511 posted on 03/11/2009 9:51:50 PM PDT by Shyla
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To: Philo-Junius
Single parent households are far and away the most dangerous for children by any measure of any sort of abuse or social maladaptation.

The statistics on this subject are ginned up by inner city project dwellers. Do you really think Bristol Palin fits this stereotype? Do you really think Trip is going to turn out to be a gang-banger?

512 posted on 03/11/2009 9:52:40 PM PDT by southern rock
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To: Philo-Junius
So Levi will be reading the bed-time stories and comforting Tripp from his nightmares? When he isn’t on the North Slope for 6 months out of the year?

WOW, you know him?

513 posted on 03/11/2009 9:57:00 PM PDT by southern rock
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To: southern rock

See my comments above on the vulgar utilitarianism of attempting to calculate for how much immorality a family can afford to pay.

Do you think the upper classes’ serial monogamies, out-of-pocket abortions and pre-nuptially negotiated infidelities has not had corrosive consequences to the social stability and overall welfare of the country?

The seared consciences of the upper classes on these questions are in fact the ONLY reason that abortion on demand is the law of the land—the butcher’s bill starts at 50 million souls and goes up from there when we start to look at the criminal statistics linked to the Sexual Revolution.


514 posted on 03/11/2009 9:57:36 PM PDT by Philo-Junius
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To: Philo-Junius; Palladin
Thank you, Philo, for pointing out the facts. WHY Palladin is anti-adoption, I have no idea. We have two (adopted) sons, and I know many people who've adopted/been adopted. These stories brought tears to my eyes, but the stats don't match how many children are abused/killed with biological parents.

My neighbor killed her 2-yr-old "step" daughter last fall. I felt so bad! I didn't know them, except that they were young and had 4 children. I thought they were married, but they weren't. I found out too late what was going on there. She had stayed with her friend and her friend's family while she was pregnant. During her stay, she started sleeping with her friend's husband. They then kicked the "friend" out of the master bedroom so she could move in with the guy! When he divorced his wife, they took his two kids and her two kids and rented the house by me. I don't even know if she's been charged yet, but they were in hiding for while and then were kicked out of the house. These were just evil people!

515 posted on 03/11/2009 9:58:32 PM PDT by GOP_Thug_Mom (libera nos a malo)
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To: southern rock

And the Palin family is what??

Tripp’s grandparents and not the 2 most important people needed to teach him about values and responsibility: a married mom and a dad.


516 posted on 03/11/2009 9:58:36 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Hail to the Dork!)
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To: southern rock

The household and vocational arrangements of Bristol and Levi have entered the public domain.


517 posted on 03/11/2009 9:59:23 PM PDT by Philo-Junius
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To: Palladin
Your daughter won’t have to worry and wonder for the next several decades whether her child is being loved and well cared for.

My sons' birthmothers don't have to worry. We've kept close contact and visit regularly--as we have for the last 14 and 12 years. We didn't "plan" open adoption--it just happened by the Grace of God. I think it's better for the kids not to have "fantasies". Heck, when I was a kid, I sometimes wished I was adopted so I could go find my "real" parents. ;)

518 posted on 03/11/2009 10:04:45 PM PDT by GOP_Thug_Mom (libera nos a malo)
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To: Shyla

My take on this is out of I Claudius, when Julia, for her serial and spectacular immoralities is driven from the house, and her mother sits inside the doorway listening to her daughter weeping and pleading outside.

“She cannot come back—that is her punishment; and I cannot go—that is my punishment.”

It would hurt like hell, but the important question is not how I feel about, but what the child deserves.


519 posted on 03/11/2009 10:05:25 PM PDT by Philo-Junius
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To: Philo-Junius

Good grief.

Forget I Claudius, we are talking about a child. Your blood.

Good night.


520 posted on 03/11/2009 10:08:35 PM PDT by Shyla
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