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1 posted on 03/06/2009 12:58:39 PM PST by BGHater
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Interesting theory. My own suspicions revolve around AIG’s significant control of assets belonging to American union pension funds.


2 posted on 03/06/2009 1:02:08 PM PST by andy58-in-nh (You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life.)
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That's the best theory we can come up with. Any others?

A more straightforward reason is this - if the major beneficiaries and amounts are made transparent, the companies being rescued will go under anyway, because no one will want to deal with those companies. There are a lot of companies who have put their game faces on, even though they would be sunk without government help. Note that Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Bear Stearns and Lehman all got government help, yet had their stocks go to almost nothing.

3 posted on 03/06/2009 1:05:15 PM PST by Zhang Fei
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“Are AIG’s Counterparties Being Protected Because They're Foreign?”

YES, THEY ARE....
This was discussed during the original TARP follies in the Financial Times. And the biggest benefactors were supposed to be Deutche Bank, Bank Of China,and UBS, since they had invested VERY HEAVILY in US Mortgage backed securities.

5 posted on 03/06/2009 1:10:26 PM PST by tcrlaf ("Hope" is the most Evil of all Evils"-Neitzsche)
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AIG holds the Teacher’s Unions pension fund. All these bail outs help those who voter for the empty suit.


6 posted on 03/06/2009 1:36:07 PM PST by IC Ken
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Funny thing that line of thinking bothers me as they're thoughts I've entertained.

Let's look at Citi-Bank
The govt (public) being the largest ‘shareholders’
who is 2nd......... A Saudi Arabian prince

The government in effect is stimulating Saudi royalty.

Will be a while for that to trickle down to ‘mainstreet’ !

7 posted on 03/06/2009 1:39:20 PM PST by IrishMike (Be prepared: Ammo, cash, gold, canned food. ...And more ammo.)
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AIG's Counterparties are being protected because they are Goldman Sachs.
8 posted on 03/06/2009 1:40:22 PM PST by Petronski (For the next few years, Gethsemane will not be marginal. We will know that garden. -- Cdl. Stafford)
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There are many reasons that AIG is being propped up but a big one is this: too businesses would shut down if AIG was allowed to collapse. As the biggest insurance companies in the world, AIG took on risks (and charged a hefty premium for those risks) that few others would or could. Think about it...who insures the following types of things/activities?:

- the freighter full of Catapilar equipment being shipped to Chile, Australia, and China.
- the grain ship carrying wheat from a U.S. port overseas.
- the ship carrying Powder River Basin coal to foreign markets.
- the liability insurance to a chain of 500 hotels, or 50 shopping malls, or giant theme parks.
- the airline with 500 Boeing and Airbus jets in the sky at all times
- the factories making cars, furniture, glass, paint, steel, etc.

More than any other company, AIG provides that insurance.

None of these enterprises could open their doors or sail from port or leave the runway without the type of insurance that AIG underwrote. AIG provided more of this type of insurance than anyone else. Shut AIG down and some companies would literally shut their doors overnight. They would have no choice. Eventually they could get new coverage, but the disruptive havoc would be armageddon-like.

There are certainly other reasons — the counter-party risk with other financial institutions and the risk to portfolios of pension plans and otheer insurance companies — but just the basic operation of the economy would have been severly disrupted.

We’re essentially paying for an orderly wind-down of AIG operations as some customers move to other insurers. And yes, they do have foreign operations which benefit from this support, and that’s part of the price for avoiding severe pain.


10 posted on 03/06/2009 1:46:46 PM PST by Cousin Eddie
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bump


12 posted on 03/06/2009 2:14:08 PM PST by CPT Clay (Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW ,)
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$152 billion tax dollars went to the AIG Financial Products (AIGFP) office in London several months ago, where a large part of the OTC derivatives were written. There are allegations that some of the money was passed through to China, and the rest of, into accounts of executives. Many more billions of tax dollars might be going there soon, if that hasn’t already happened.


13 posted on 03/06/2009 2:21:16 PM PST by familyop (combat engineer (combat), National Guard, '89-'96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote, http://falconparty.com/)
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"Even AIG has admitted that its neverending bailout isn't a bailout of itself, but a bailout if its counterparties. AIG (AIG) is just a "conduit" admitted CEO Ed Liddy."

Yes, it's a monstrous "conduit" of your tax dollars to foreign manufacturing operations and the accounts of the anti-American, socially pathological businesses that arrange for your tax dollars to go overseas. Those executives and board members are the only constituents that both of our political parties listen to.

Be nonpolitical, and stop buying.


16 posted on 03/06/2009 2:35:33 PM PST by familyop (As painful as the global laxative might be, maybe our "one world" needs a good cleaning.)
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After much analysis, I believe that the AIG black hole is supporting Chinese pension funds.

No support of pension funds? No buying of U.S. debt.

20 posted on 03/06/2009 6:18:53 PM PST by politicket (1 1/2 million attended Obama's coronation - only 14 missed work!)
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