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Natural Born Citizens, Citizens, and Cowards
Natural Born Conservative Blog ^ | 03/02/2009 | Larry Walker Jr

Posted on 03/02/2009 8:58:52 PM PST by NaturalBornConservative

By: Larry

February 27, 2009

Did you know that the Constitutional requirements to be a U.S. Congressman or U.S. Senator are different than the requirements to be U.S. President or Vice President?

The requirements may be found at the following website: click here.

The Constitutional requirements to become a U.S. Senator or Congressman include having been a U.S. Citizen for a certain number of years. And, in order to be President or Vice President, the Constitution requires that one be a Natural Born Citizen and a resident for a certain number of years.

Now is it possible that the terms Citizen and Natural Born Citizen are synonymous? Were our founding fathers just a bunch of poorly educated, bumbling idiots, who used complicated words just to confuse the masses? Do you really know the difference? Do you care about protecting, defending and upholding the United States Constitution?

Constitutional Requirements

U.S. Congressman Article I, Section 2, Clause 2 No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.

U.S. Senator Article I, Section 3, Clause 3 No Person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty Years, and been nine Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State for which he shall be chosen.

U.S. President Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

The United States Constitution requires that Presidents (and Vice Presidents) of the United States be natural born citizens of the United States. It is undisputed that children of American citizens born in the U.S. are eligible to hold the office of President upon reaching the required age, and that persons naturalized as U.S. citizens after birth are disqualified from holding that office.

The special term "Natural Born Citizen" is used in particular as a requirement for eligibility to serve as President or Vice President of the United States.

Additionally, the Twelfth Amendment to the United States Constitution states that: "[N]o person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."

Grandfather provision of Article II, Section I

“…or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution…”

The grandfather provision of the Natural Born Citizen Clause thus covered the first several presidents and vice-presidents, who were citizens at the time of the adoption of the Constitution, but who had been born as British Citizens before the American Revolution. [In other words, at the time of the adoption of the Constitution no Citizen of the United States could have been a Natural Born Citizen, because their parent’s were not U.S. Citizens at the time of their birth.]

It is generally agreed that these Constitutional provisions mean that anyone born on American soil to parents who are U.S. citizens is a natural born citizen eligible to someday become president or vice-president. It is also agreed that anyone whose citizenship is acquired after birth as a result of the naturalization process or procedure is not a natural born citizen and is therefore ineligible for those two positions.

The Lineage of Barack Hussein Obama II

Barack Hussein Obama II was born to Stanley Ann Dunham, a White American from Wichita, Kansas of English and Irish descent, and Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a Luo from Nyang’oma Kogelo, Nyanza Province, Kenya. His parents met in 1960 while attending the University of Hawaii at Mānoa, where his father was a foreign student.

Barack Hussein Obama I was a citizen of Great Britain at the time of his son’s birth. The senior Obama never became a Citizen of the United States. Obama II acquired British Citizenship at birth by virtue of this father, and later, Kenyan citizenship by virtue of his father, once Kenya won its independence.

Although Obama II’s mother was a U.S. Citizen at the time of his birth, the fact that his father was not created a condition of dual citizenship. Being born with dual citizenship disqualified Obama II from ever being considered to be a natural born citizen.

The Definition and Original Meaning

The drafters of our Constitution read Vattel’s Law of Nations, and incorporated many of its definitions into the text.

Vattel’s Law of Nations Chapter 19, § 212. Citizens and natives:

“The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”

And of Our Constitutional Republic?

In real life, a law must be changed or amended before it may be broken without punishment. What gives Barack Obama II the right to be the President of the United States?

Nothing gives him that right. You know it, I know it, Congress knows it, and the Supreme Court knows it. To date, not one single eligibility case against Obama II has been heard on the merits. That means there has been no hearing, no subpoenas, no production of evidence, nothing. Each case has been thrown out on a technicality without having been tried.

Many Americans assume that this case has been heard, and that Obama II was proven to be a Natural Born Citizen. They are wrong. If you think that the case has been tried, then I would encourage you to search. Search each and every eligibility challenge taken to court, and review the disposition of those cases. You will find that not one single case has ever been tried on the merits. Why you ask? Because as Eric Holder stated, ‘we are a nation of cowards’.

If you know the truth, and are afraid to speak it, then you sir/madam are a coward.

Sources:

http://east_west_dialogue.tripod.com/vattel/id3.html

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/thepresidentandcabinet/a/presrequire.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born_citizen

http://www.lonang.com/exlibris/vattel/vatt-119.htm

http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/previous_questions.html


TOPICS: History; Reference; Society
KEYWORDS: barackhusseinobama; bergvobama; naturalborncitizen; taitz
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To: NaturalBornConservative
Your problem is that as far as I can tell the threefold distinction has never been recognized by a single government agency or judicial decision. So while you may be accurately parsing the Constitution, the courts and the interpretation of the Constitution in practice do not seem to agree with you.

The Constitution does indeed list the three groups. But it is referring to all citizns as one category and two subgroups.

Citizens refers to all who hold citizenship. Sub-groups of "citizen" are naturalized citizen and natural-born or native-born citizen.

British Common Law, which we Americans detest to this day.

It would be odd for us to do so, since we practice it, in all states except LA, to this day.

23 of the 55 Founders were attorneys. The law they had learned and which they had practiced was common law. Therefore, when they used a legal term without explanation it is bizarre to think they were using it in any other than a common law meaning.

BTW, it's not "British Common Law." Scottish Law is not fully based on common law and indeed differs from it a good deal more than that of most American states.

21 posted on 03/12/2009 3:25:19 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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To: Sherman Logan

“The common law of England is not the common law of these States.” —George Mason

~Res Ipsa Loquitur~

George Mason was a “Framer” and was responsible for the bill of rights. Mr. Mason said it plainly and without equivocation. Therefore, your 21st Century interpretation is moot.


22 posted on 03/12/2009 4:21:03 PM PDT by NaturalBornConservative (Vattel was a proponent of 'Natural Law' as were the 'Framers')
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