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To: TigersEye

And to clarify, so as not to contradict myself; I do not believe that today’s liberal peaceniks are true pacifists.

They use this mindset to portray themselves as above or “better” than those who do NOT share this worldview, which is actually a form of coercive aggression.

In some sense, I think I’m lucky because I believe in Satan, the devil, Lucifer, an evil and invisible presence which has been set upon this world.

For me anyway, it explains a lot.


14 posted on 03/04/2009 5:31:22 AM PST by incredulous joe ("Who wants to pay for the losers mortgage?" ~ Rick Santelli)
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To: incredulous joe
Sorry to hear your computer is on the fritz. That is a major frustration. Remember when they said computers would make our lives easier? I recall hearing that line a lot when the auto parts stores got them. You would stand there for five minutes while the guy tried to figure out how to work it. Finally he would go back to the books. After a few months all the clerks got used to them and the kinks were smoothed out. Then the next year a whole new system would come in, the inventory numbering completely changed and you would stand there for five minutes waiting for them to figure it out. I always wondered how much computerization added to the cost of the parts.??? lol

“The Sojourn of Arjuna” Is that really a song set to music? It's interesting but I have a hard time imagining a melody for it. I recognize the philosophical/spiritual theme though.

I don't consider leftist secular humanists to be true pacifists either. Or true anything other than communists or anarchists. And they have no idea what real anarchy would be either. The Tibetan Buddhist POV isn't pacifist either though. Buddhism is a way of non-aggression not pacifism. There is a very big difference between the two mindsets.

A real pacifist won't defend himself or others. A Buddhist seeks to do no harm to others but not at the cost of ignoring reality. From the Buddhist POV a pacifist is a coward. To allow one's life, or the lives of others, to be taken when there is something you could do about it is cowardly. And more importantly to a Buddhist it is ignorant of reality.

While your view of how evil comes to manifest itself in the world may be different than mine it is definitely better, from my perspective, that you recognize evil to exist than to think there is no such thing. The moral relativism of the secular humanist is more of a poison to the mind than the twisted world view of a fundamentalist Muslim AFAIC.

The jihadi mindset may warp views of good and evil into ridiculous forms but the secular humanist view that there is no good or evil is a far greater denial of reality. Radical Muzzies may be doing most of the murdering in the world right now but the potential for destruction is much greater in the nihilist-narcissist POV of secular humanists. It is scary that their views have found so much acceptance in the west.

15 posted on 03/04/2009 1:09:06 PM PST by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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