To: InsensitiveConservative
This posting will probably get pulled. Before I even write this, I need to give somewhat a disclaimer and state that I personally would NOT condone nor suggest that somebody employ the tactics which I'm going to outline. They're probably a bad idea, and immoral at best. The only reason I think this way is because of a "job" that I used to have within the DoD.
Here's the scenario... Our nation is perceived as being under attack. For all intents and purposes we have an open border to the south, and just across that border is a well armed and violent group who is salivating at the prospect at our leftist administration who lacks the fortitude to do anything which will really prevent them from coming here. Now granted, drug cartels and their members aren't normal people by any stretch of the imagination. However, this tactic which I'm going to outline would have the same effect no matter whether they be drug cartel members, or just illegals looking for a job.
Eventually though, U.S. citizens along the border will realize that we've all been abandoned by those who are charged with keeping watch over the nation's security, and eventually they'll have to choose whether or not they're going to take this responsibility upon themselves through effective means. If they don't, then they have to live with the consequences. But if they do, they're up against a legal system and a bureaucracy which has NOT been kind to them. It's a rather difficult position to be in as a responsible citizen.
Most people have heard the term "throw away gun". But most associate it with a gun you use for personal protection and then throw away. They think of it in terms of being a last ditch personal security measure, just before discarding it. But there's another darker use, sometimes known better to the law enforcement community. The type I'm referring to is the type that's suddenly found on a suspect, whereas it probably wasn't there before. That's because it is PLANTED on him at his arrest. The same can be done with drugs.
What would a jury have to say to a rancher who was alone on the backside of thousands of acres except for being accompanied by a single unarmed ranch hand, and having a rifle, (say a Ruger Mini-14, or an AR-15) who killed 18 or 20 illegals because he panicked when one of them shot at him at close range? What if afterwards during the ensuing law enforcement investigation, a fired handgun was found with one of the deceased, and not only were his paw prints on the weapon, but the spare magazine was in his pocket? What if the ranch hand with him at the time corraborated his recount. I'm just asking! WHAT IF!? For that matter, what if they found many fired handguns? Let's really screw with the politically correct crowd and make at least one handgun a TEC-9...an assault weapon!...by definition of the morons who make laws against such amoral items.
I'll tell you what if... Word would spread like wildfire amongst those who want illegally cross our borders at that particular area to AVOID IT LIKE THE PLAGUE.
I know you're probably thinking I'm some sort of nut job. But I'm not. I'm a former info-warfare technician though, and we aren't known for thinking like everybody else. I fully realize that I've possibly suggested premeditated murder, as well as conspiracy to commit. I won't comment on how this stacks up against the systematic disassembling of our Republic by a tyrannous and lofty few. In fact, I would ask the question...is it murder? Or is it an act of war? It's a good question! I don't have an answer!
They would probably still haul the francher through court, but it's much more cut and dry with the scenario which I've outlined above, as opposed to threatening them with the deadly weapon and letting them go, only to return later with a lawyer to drag the rancher through the very system which should be protecting him!
Anyway...people use the term, shoot, shovel, and shut up. It's not quite that simple, but using a throw away gun as I've mentioned IS a possible means of realistically implementing it.
62 posted on
02/17/2009 3:37:57 PM PST by
hiredhand
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To: hiredhand; 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; ...
71 posted on
02/17/2009 7:15:30 PM PST by
HiJinx
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To: hiredhand
shoot, shovel, and shut upThe worms & buzzards have to eat too....Warn, demand retreat, if necessary, shoot and shut up.....this is now a war.
79 posted on
02/18/2009 6:36:43 AM PST by
cbkaty
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