As opposed to southern gentlemen like Congressman Preston Brooks, who beat Charles Sumner with a cane until it broke while his friend Lawrence Keitt held off other congressmen with a pistol.
Posted on 02/13/2009 8:05:16 AM PST by Dick Bachert
Because the Runaway Slave Laws didn't apply in Canada, as you would have known had you done any reading on the subject.
The South decide to exit the union because the north decided to stop the institution of slavery from spreading into the territories that had not yet been set up as states.
Slavery was on a slow road to extinction, but the South refused to peacefully comply with that destiny.
To say the Civil war was not about the destruction of Slavery in America is naive at best. If there had not been slavery in the south, the Southern rebellion never would have occurred. Period.
Arkansas, Texas, Louisiana (except the parishes of St. Bernard, Plaquemines, Jefferson, St. John, St. Charles, St. James, Ascension, Assumption, Terrebone, Lafourche, St. Mary, St. Martin, and Orleans, including the city of New Orleans), Mississippi, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, and Virginia (except the forty-eight counties designated as West Virginia, and also the counties of Berkeley, Accomac, Northhampton, Elizabeth City, York, Princess Anne, and Norfolk, including the cities of Norfolk and Portsmouth), and which excepted parts are for the present left precisely as if this proclamation were not issued.
Those above mentioned EXCEPTIONS were the areas under FEDERAL CONTROL!
That was an excellent post.
“which, BTW, was NOT about slavery”
Then exactly what was it about?
True...I was told in my history class...that there were slaves in the North (grandfathered in). This was a Virginian school and taught history at the time with a southern slant...I will look and see if this is even true.Interesting...don’t know the dates-not given...keep looking.
“In Connecticut in the 1950s, when I was growing up, the only slavery discussed in my history textbook was southern; New Englanders had marched south to end slavery. It was in Rhode Island, where I lived after 1964, that I first stumbled across an obscure reference to local slavery, but almost no one I asked knew anything about it. Members of the historical society did, but they assured me that slavery in Rhode Island had been brief and benign, involving only the best families, who behaved with genteel kindness. They pointed me in the direction of several antiquarian histories, which said about the same thing. Some of the people of color I met knew more.”[3]
"Both parties deprecated war, but one of them would make war rather than let the nation survive, and the other would accept war rather than let it perish, and the war came."
And the rebels lost.
From the same author.
Over time, slavery flourished in the Upper South and failed to do so in the North. But there were pockets of the North on the eve of the Revolution where slaves played key roles in the economic and social order: New York City and northern New Jersey, rural Pennsylvania, and the shipping towns of Connecticut and Rhode Island. Black populations in some places were much higher than they would be during the 19th century. More than 3,000 blacks lived in Rhode Island in 1748, amounting to 9.1 percent of the population; 4,600 blacks were in New Jersey in 1745, 7.5 percent of the population; and nearly 20,000 blacks lived in New York in 1771, 12.2 percent of the population.[4] ‘
Deo vindiced in 1865 at Appomattox.
“If there had not been slavery in the south, the Southern rebellion never would have occurred. Period.”
There would not even have been a region identifying itself as “the South.” There would simply have been States who are in the Southern United States.
That's an interesting term. What were they wanting to be independent from? And just who wanted to be independent?
As opposed to southern gentlemen like Congressman Preston Brooks, who beat Charles Sumner with a cane until it broke while his friend Lawrence Keitt held off other congressmen with a pistol.
A Soldiers Letter
We have been favored by an old resident of Mabbettsville, in this county with the following interesting letter written to him by a nephew in the army, dated
Morris Island, S.C.
September 24, 1864
Dear Uncle:--Your good advice I will try and follow. I tell you, George B. McClellan is the only man, that can carry the old ship of State safely through; already we are drifting near the rock that will submerge the noble ship, and we need a man at the helm that will take her out into the broad ocean and guide her toward and into the port of Peace. I say there is too much negro about this matter; only look at the thousands of valuable lives that have been sacrificed for the black man, but my opinion is the South are not fighting for slavery now, but for their honor; but the present administration are continually harping on the negro. They say we are determined to break the bonds of every slave--or disunion. God forbid I should ever have those feelings. No, no. The Union must and shall be preserved. Let the negro go. The white man must rule and reign.
The noble and tried patriot today stands before the American people for the high position of President of these United States. His enemies will ask you what he has ever done to entitle him to occupy the presidential chair? He has done much. Why did he not do more? Simply because he was never supported by the Administration as he should have been; troops were withheld from him, when he called loudly for them. The great secret was, he was too popular with the people and soldier. The Republicans were afraid of him. But thank God he is as much beloved to-day as ever. The soldiers love him, and when their votes are counted you will find we will roll-up such a majority for General George B. McClellan that will astonish the country. He is our choice, and if you could have witnessed as I did the scene that transpired when he was relieved from command, it would have made your heart (though it were adament) melt to see the tears trickle down the cheek of the war worn veteran and the raw recruit when the news reached them, but I trust the day of deliverance is at hand.
Dear Uncle, though you may have never engaged in politics before in your life, I implore you to put your shoulder to the wheel, and every chance you have don't neglect the opportunity of urging the claim of Little Mac upon your friends. Please tell them to stand by him. I hope Old Duchess [county] will roll up a large majority for him. I must close as it is near 10 o'clock at night. Please write me a few lines.
Your nephew, Edwin A. Hoag.
“”Deo vindiced in 1865 at Appomattox.”
To your point of view, maybe.
I prefer to look at it as time out.
Oh, he was one of many! I wasn’t saying that “Northern” men were any more stupid than Southern men. Sheesh. I was commenting on the behavior of this PERSON who has been elevated to Sainthood in history books.
See, I understand where you are coming from there. My father is a Civil War history buff and has read practically every biography on Sherman. And I don’t think he was a monster or anything, but he DID effect people for generations. I mean my grandmother recalls her mother crying about watching her house burn as a little girl. That pain affected a person who I loved, you know?
It’s diluted as time goes on, but it’s still there. And history is written by the victors.
Political necessity is not the same thing as hypocrisy. The only reason the emancipation did not free slaves in the border states was because the Union could not risk their secession. Winning the war was, quite rightly, the highest priority at the time.
Holding that against Lincoln is about as stupid as holding against Churchill England's wartime alliance with the Soviet Union.
You’ve been indoctrinated by the history books or text books written after the 50’s.
Go hunt up a school textbook or a history book written in the late 19th or early 20th Century and you’ll come away better educated.
Until then, take our word for it. The War of Northern Aggression was not about slavery.
Re-read this article a bit more closely.
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The spirit is admirable, but I really believe it turned out best for everybody, the South most of all. When a regime lasts only four years it's easy to romanticize and overlook faults, but I don't think long term rule by that Confederate gang upon the necks of southerners would have worn well for very long.
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