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Fighter jets scrambled after UFO follows plane over Athens: jets were scrambled to intercept a UFO
telegraph.co.uk ^ | 9:30AM GMT 10 Feb 2009 | Matthew Moore

Posted on 02/10/2009 4:03:18 AM PST by JoeProBono

The object was spotted by the pilot of Olympic Airways flight 266 from Athens, and the sighting was corroborated by staff at Athens Airport and a nearby Greek air force base. Pilots of two other passenger jets also reported seeing the body.The eyewitnesses described it as looking like a large star, although it was moving erratically and constantly changing shape.Two fighter jets were sent to investigate the sighting over the Greek capital in November 2007 but the object shot up into the sky and vanished before they could get a clear view.

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To: JoeProBono

Thanks much. Just up from nap.

Gads this ‘cold virus’ crud takes a long time to get over.

This is kind of interesting.

http://www.i-map.us/


261 posted on 02/25/2009 9:02:48 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: JoeProBono

Lots of interesting such pics here:

http://webcamufo.com/#life


262 posted on 02/25/2009 9:10:48 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: JoeProBono

O’HARE Airport UFO . . . interview . . .

http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?swf=http%3A//s.ytimg.com/yt/swf/cps-vfl80438.swf&video_id=f39ZBrsYFHw&rel=1&eurl=http%3A//webcamufo.com/&iurl=http%3A//i3.ytimg.com/vi/f39ZBrsYFHw/hqdefault.jpg&sk=uJRLPGtfY7u2ox-bFekWuZMdoTdJ-3GKC&use_get_video_info=1&load_modules=1&cr=US&avg_rating=4.64285714286&length_seconds=156&allow_ratings=1&title=UFO%20hovers%20over%20Chigaco%20O%27Hare%20Airport%20-%20Eyewit...


263 posted on 02/25/2009 11:33:07 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: longtermmemmory; JoeProBono

Here’s an interesting pic:

http://www.mufoncms.com/files/15709_submitter_file1__2-24-09-ciscotx.jpg


264 posted on 02/25/2009 11:38:43 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: JoeProBono; ALASKA; ActionNewsBill; airborne; albertp; areafiftyone; aruanan; ...
Joe, Have you done any analysis of that photo?

Here's some more gleanings from EARTHFILES.COM

http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1528&category=Real+X-Files

Part 19:  Army/CIA Unit Studied the Real UFO Blue Book Cases

© 2009 by Linda Moulton Howe


“I asked, ‘Have you been shooting down any saucer vehicles and aliens
with this weapon?’ And those Wackenhut types told me they had.”
  
- “Stein,” Former Army/CIA UFO Analyst

Return to Part 1

Return to Part 18

February 24, 2009  Albuquerque, New Mexico -  At the end of Part 18, of my June 29, 1998, interview with Stein at his Florida home, . . .

. . .

[ See Stein Earthfiles Part ] was the source of the first call to Stein warning him not to talk with me further ..... or its alleged assassin squad assigned to termination missions. During his work for the ... unit that studied real UFO Blue Book cases, . . .

I had traveled to his home without anyone knowing my destination and after I left, I traveled to another destination for a 4th of July holiday before returning to my Philadelphia office. After my visit and long, recorded audio interview with Stein, neither of us expected that Wackenhut and/or CIA agents would turn up more menacingly in his life.

I returned to my Philadelphia home base on July 5, 1998, to find the following voice mail left by Stein on July 3, 1998:

Stein Phone Voice Mail:  “Yes, Linda, Stein calling. I have had visitors from either Wackenhut or the CIA that followed me to the grocery store and then talked with me outside the grocery store in the parking lot. They definitely do not want me to go ahead with anything further with you in regard to the issues they mentioned. And they told me the reason why, concerning the southeastern .... identification. So, I would say hold up on everything.

“One thing they did was threaten. They had photographs of my son at his marine work, going to work and in his car.  They mentioned to me that it would be a shame for him to have an accident at such a young age, and he is just 30. So, I think what I need to do is hold off on everything as far as doing anything for a book, radio or anything. My wife does not know this yet, so would appreciate it if you would not mention this to her at all if you call here. We are leaving this afternoon for a trip up north and I’ll try to get hold of you again from up north.”

...

Linda Moulton Howe:  “CAN YOU GIVE ME SOME MORE DETAILS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED AFTER I LEFT YOUR HOME AND YOU WERE GOING TO THE SUPER MARKET?

Stein:  Yeah, after you left, I noticed for a couple of days that I was followed by a Spanish-looking fellow in a car. I went grocery shopping the day before and he would be by the prescription counter where he was using the blood pressure machine there. But as soon as I left, he would come out again and drive down to the next block past our house. I noticed that action and thought, ‘This guy is tailing me.’

Then the next day, I went to the store and parked in a shady spot on the street so I had a ways to walk. Then I was walking and got about half way to the store when I saw the same guy get out of a car in the store parking lot with another person. They walked toward me and as I got closer to them, one of them said to me, ‘We would like to have a word with you.’

I said, ‘OK, what’s the problem?’

He said, ‘We have been sent  over here’ – I assumed they meant from Coral Gables and Wackenhut – ‘to talk with you.’ The first thing he said was, ‘We think we know who you were, as far as your CIA name. And we know that you have a lot of background from WWII on up as far as your knowledge. We would like to talk to you about that.’ They leaned against the trunk of a nearby car very casually. It was not their car.

DID THEY GIVE YOU THE NAME THEY HAD FOR YOU IN THE CIA TO PROVE THEY KNEW?

No.

DID THEY SHOW YOU ANY IDENTIFICATION?

No, they never did. I asked them, ‘Who are you and where are you from?’ But they would not tell me. They said that the government has been watching a number of people in regard to old classified material. They said that they understood the classified agreement that people like me signed back after the war that were supposed to apply for 30 or 35 years and the time was up on those agreements - they had expired.

But then they said they wanted to explain to me why they wanted to keep the .... out of the public. They did show me photographs of the little airport I once knew there, but it was all changed from the way it was when I was there in the 1950s. The photos they showed me were of a place much bigger, if that was the same place.

DID THEY EXPLAIN WHY THE ISSUE IS SO SENSITIVE TODAY?

Yes. They showed me a ground-to-air defense that they had there in the ... U. S.

MISSILES?

Not missiles, but the new ‘Star Wars weapons,’ they said. I did see one building that had a roof that would retract so they could shoot upward from inside the building.

WHAT DO  YOU UNDERSTAND THE WEAPONS ARE?

I think they are .... weapons where they can shoot a satellite down from the ground. I think that is probably what it was. I asked them if it was a .... weapon and the men told me it was a ‘highly advanced system.’ They said that ... had something to do with it, but it was far more advanced than that. One guy said, ‘Anything coming in from the Atlantic Ocean, we can take care of, even in outer space, with this weapon.’

They said some people had tried to get into the area to see and had been killed. One was a Russian and one was someone from the United States. They said, ‘This is the reason we need to keep this secret because we have other bases in various other strategic parts of the country that are able to do the same thing as far as shoot down something from outer space.

I asked, ‘Have you been shooting down any saucer vehicles and aliens with this weapon?’ And those Wackenhut types told me they had.

DID YOU ASK WHY?

No. I asked if the aliens were aggressive or did something in that area of the country where you would shoot them down. And the men said, ‘Yes, there were some incidents involving some deaths that had been kept secret.’ Those craft were the ones they had shot down.

MEANING INCIDENTS IN WHICH ALIENS HAD KILLED HUMANS?

Yes, apparently. When the alien craft took off, the government units had gotten the word and went after them. Plus, in the photos of the airstrip, I also saw black helicopters on the runway and also black trucks.

IN THE PHOTOS THE MEN SHOWED YOU?

Yes. And those helicopters and black trucks are retrieval equipment if a saucer crashes or they shoot one down. Then they go out and retrieve it and bring it back to that ... military base.

DID THEY EXPLAIN WHY ALL THIS WAS HOUSED IN THAT PARTICULAR MILITARY BASE?

Because it’s a strategic point for the ... U. S. They can cover with the weapon most of the Florida area and southeastern U. S. And then there are other weapons placed around other parts of the country.

DID THEY SAY THEY HAVE USED THE ADVANCED WEAPONS TO SHOOT DOWN DISCS AND EXTRATERRESTRIALS IN THE LAST YEAR OR TWO?

No, they didn’t say a timeline. They did say they had worked with the Russians who had the same equipment and that the Russians have shot down several craft, including a very large craft.

DID THE MEN SAY WHICH TYPE OF EXTRATERRESTRIAL THEY ARE SHOOTING DOWN?

No, they didn’t and I asked them if it was the 6-fingered extraterrestrials? Or the Greys? And they told me they could not release that information.

DID THEY GIVE YOU ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THE DIFFERENT TYPES?

No, they just said they had two craft that did something aggressively and after the saucer craft took off and started flying somewhere else around the area, the military base unit used the advanced weapon to shoot the craft down.

DID YOU HAVE THE IMPRESSION THAT THIS WAS RECENT HISTORY?

He said that the U. S. has had that defense down there for a number of years and the Star Wars thing happened in the 1980s. So, it was not ancient history.

IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE LAST TEN TO FIFTEEN YEARS?

Yes, probably the last ten years. Anyway, the men said that we had to keep this secret and they said, ‘We know that you probably don’t care that much for yourself, being your age and bad health. But I know that you are very close to your son.’ Then they showed photographs of my son going to work where he lives in Florida and getting into his car after work and the apartment where he lives – getting out of his car and headed for his apartment.

The men said, ‘We know you are very close to your son and it would be a shame - if you could not keep this under wraps – if something were to happen to him.’

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More at the link above.

265 posted on 02/26/2009 5:45:27 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: ALASKA; airborne; areafiftyone; aruanan; A South Park Republican; auggy; AU72; Aroha; ...
MORE earthfiles.com gleanings . . . A very fascinating Navy Sub narrative . . .

The whole thing with pic is at this link:

http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1515&category=Environment

Source: UFO Evidence.

U.S. Navy Sailor:   “I was assigned to USS Memphis (SSN-698), home port Titusville, FL. (Cape Canaveral.) Our mission was Special Assignments which meant we protected the Space Program. We would go to sea and patrol while the shuttle was on the pad.

“On October 24 and 25, 1989, my ship (submarine) was on patrol about 150 miles off the Florida coast. We were cruising at about 500 feet (below the ocean surface) when the submarine started experiencing electronics problems. The ship was malfunctioning, our tanks were blowing out of control, we were losing navigation ability and the communications area was totally lost. We went to all stop and tried to access what was happening. The controls in the (nuclear) reactor area started to malfunction. This presented a serious danger to our safety, so the captain ordered us to shut down the reactor, surface and go to diesel motors.

“When the ship surfaced, I went to my watch station. The ship was still experiencing electronic difficulties, but the mechanical devices such as diesel engines, cook stoves, and turbines were fine. It was raining and the entire sky was red like a red neon sign. I saw a large inverted V-shaped UFO off the port side. The executive officer told me to stand fast and he would speak to the captain. In a minute, the captain appeared on the tower and asked me for a distance to the craft. The laser range finder determined the closest point was 200 meters and the farthest point was 1,000 meters off the port. The UFO was not perpendicular to our ship, but at about a 45-degree angle. This huge vessel was over a half mile across. The UFO made a half circle around our ship and then passed across the stern causing our electronics systems to go crazy. We had permanent damage in communications and the sonar room.

“As the craft flew over the stern, I could see the rain stop under its red glow. The water seemed to rise almost a foot as the UFO passed over silently. When the UFO finished its swing across the stern, it paused - the sky got brighter red and it simply moved off at tremendous speed inside 15 seconds. When the UFO left, our boat returned to normal with the exception of the radio and sonar. We did a quick system check and the captain ordered us to return to reactor power and get underway.

“The captain took two petty officers, the executive officer, and myself into the wardroom. He told us to not spread any rumors until we had a chance to talk to Commander Submarine Fleet - Atlantic. We reached port in about 7 hours where I was taken into ‘protective custody.’ Two enlisted men and myself agreed we had witnessed a real UFO. I was the one who shot it with a laser range finder, so I was the only one that had its exact sizes. I shot that vessel as it hovered and I got solid readings - not spotty like I would on debris.

“We were in holding for about three hours when an officer from the U. S. Air Force arrived and gave us a line of bull about an exploding weather satellite. The Navy then transferred virtually everyone on the crew to new assignments. This included the captain, the executive officer and the entire crew. They were split up, which almost never happens unless one of them gets a promotion or a new command, neither of which happened. The military just split up a 4-year team. I was watching a program tonight that gave me the courage to share this.”
Case ID: 1110

 

266 posted on 02/26/2009 7:31:16 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix; All

Large V-shaped aircraft, longer than a football field and an estimated two stories high, on Plumosa Street by the Indian River west of Cape Canaveral, Florida, around 12:30 AM Eastern on August 16, 1987. Computer illustration

267 posted on 02/26/2009 7:42:53 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono

Thanks.

what are your thoughts and feelings on all such at this point in time?

What are you expecting the next 4 months vis a vis the UFO field?


268 posted on 02/26/2009 7:53:22 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

I don’t speculate. Why 4 months...you know something ;-}


269 posted on 02/26/2009 8:01:25 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono

No.

Just seems like at the pace things are going . . . more dramatic stuff is likely within 4 months.

Just wondered what your ponderings might include.

Thx.


270 posted on 02/26/2009 8:13:19 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

One wonders if the “pace of things” is fundamentally consciousness raising.


271 posted on 02/26/2009 8:19:00 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono

I’m convinced that program is

—picking up in speed
—picking up in intensity
—picking up in complexity and drama

You disagree?


272 posted on 02/26/2009 8:20:10 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
By the end of the play, the castaways manage to defeat the extraterrestrial and save the entire planet, while staying marooned themselves."

Night ;-}

273 posted on 02/26/2009 8:22:26 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono; A knight without armor; aragorn; B-Chan; BigSkyVic; BreezyDog; DollyCali; ...
More from earthfiles.com

http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1503&category=Real+X-Files

Part 12:  Army/CIA Unit Studied the Real UFO Blue Book Cases

© 2008 by Linda Moulton Howe


“Col. Jim at Area 51 said alien craft propulsion systems
were anti-magnetic and anti-gravitational on two of the craft and one
had an anti-matter type propulsion that was much more complicated
than the other two.”
  - “Stein,” Former Army/CIA UFO Analyst

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Return to Part 1

Return to Part 11

December 4, 2008  Albuquerque, New Mexico -  My June 29, 1998, interview with Stein at his Florida home continues from Part 11.

 

Howe:  “WHAT OTHER FILES DID YOU LOOK THROUGH?

Stein:  “We looked through the WWII German file.

THAT SAME DAY YOU SAW THE ROSWELL FILE?

Yes, same day.

WHAT WAS THAT FILE CALLED?

‘End of World War II Agreements File,’ something like that. I thought it would be surrender papers from Germany, but when I opened the file up, it was something entirely different from that.

IS ANTHONY BARDEN READING THAT FILE WITH YOU?

No, he was still in the Project Blue Book category. Later I went to get him and brought him to see the Roswell file and the German file. He read the German file first because he thought it was more exciting. In this particular file about end of WWII Germany agreements, these documents were typed out with a script typewriter – script print. That’s super fancy, like if you typed up an expensive will and testament document. Real nice looking. Anthony mentioned that he had never seen script form of typing in any other documents he had ever seen. And the script print did not look like it belonged there because it wasn’t like government typewriters or teletypes we saw in most documents and files.

WHAT WERE YOU READING?

It mentioned movements at the end of WWII. It mentioned tracing where Adolph Hitler had left. Three weeks before the final end of the war when the Germans finally surrendered, Hitler went in a small airplane to Norway – Hitler and Eva Braun both – and the burned body outside of the basement stronghold where Hitler had been was his double and not him. The Russians knew that and found paperwork in regards to the body double. The Russians knew that it was not Hitler who died in the bunker.

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...

Howe:  “DID ANYBODY IN OUR O.S.S. (Office of Strategic Services was CIA precursor) HAVE ACTUAL FIRSTHAND EYEWITNESS TESTIMONY THAT HITLER WAS USING A DOUBLE?

On some of the forms in the Germany file at CIA Langley, it said definitely that our U. S. government knew Hitler had a body double from at least the spring of 1944. It also mentioned that Hitler and Eva Braun flew in a small airplane to Norway and went from there to South America in a submarine. The only reason our OSS spies knew that Hitler was in that plane is that Hitler had special buttons on his topcoat and a Fuhrer button was found in the airplane that had ripped off his coat. He was in the backseat that had to be pushed forward in order to climb out of the airplane. Apparently that’s when his button hooked on the edge of the backseat and tore off as he was getting out of the plane and was lodged right there.

IN THE DOCUMENT YOU WERE READING AT THE CIA LANGLEY ARCHIVE, WHERE DID IT SAY THAT HITLER AND EVA BRAUN WENT IN A SUBMARINE?

The file said some of the submarines went to Antarctica and some went to Argentina. But Hitler went to Colombia, South America.

IT SAID THAT IN THE DOCUMENT THAT HAD THE SCRIPT PRINT?

Yes, that Hitler had a German base in southern Colombia, (northwestern South America west of Venezuela.) The document Anthony and I read said that Colombia is where Adolf Hitler went. Then when he arrived, we in the U. S. had OSS people there who reported that Hitler had shaved off his moustache and he was very sad looking because Eva Braun died in the submarine on the way to Colombia from a ruptured appendix.

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Stein:  “We also found another file about the Vril technology. The first thing in the file when we opened it up was a British classified document, which was from the 1930s before WWII started. It showed that in Peenemunde, the Germans had developed the saucer craft with an entirely different kind of propulsion system. Intelligence did not know exactly what the propulsion system was, but they knew that the craft did not burn any fossil fuels. It had a levitation device, I think is how they described it in the file.

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...

Yes, and he said to me that the more we read, the more we had no idea about what had really gone on in WWII.

HE WAS SEEING THE VRIL MATERIAL FOR THE FIRST TIME?

Yes. We were hurrying through the files looking for references about alien beings, but didn’t find much except a brief mention about some mediums contacting aliens concerning levitation devices.

ANTHONY BARDEN, WHO CAME FROM THE O.S.S. AND WWII AND KNEW SO MUCH, WHAT DID HE SAY?

We only talked frankly when we got outside the CIA building. You had to watch what you said inside the CIA headquarters warehouse. We knew it was all electronically bugged.

WHEN YOU WALKED OUTSIDE, YOU SAID ANTHONY BARDEN TURNED TO YOU AND SAID?

‘I never expected to see this! I expected to see more on aliens, but I never expected to see that WWII had so much to do with German technology. And when we saw the two saucer craft at Area 51, Anthony looked at me then and said, ‘Vril craft!’ The third big one with the gun on the bottom Col. Jim also said was a ‘Vril craft.’ I saw information that some Vril craft went back to the early 1920s!

WHAT WAS THE DIAMETER OF THE FIRST TWO SMALLER VRIL CRAFT?

I think about 18 to 20 feet on the Vril craft. The middle alien craft were 30 to 40 feet in diameter and then the back craft were about 60 feet in diameter.

 

Area 51 “Foreign Technology”

2  Vril Craft - Germany?
3  Alien Craft - Unknown Source?
2  Large Craft - Germany? Other?

OK, TRY TO MENTALLY PUT YOURSELF ON THE CATWALK AND YOU ARE LOOKING OUT AT THE CRAFT AND TRY TO GIVE MORE DETAILS, STARTING WITH THE FRONT TWO VRIL CRAFT.

The two front Vril craft were almost identical. They were small, around 18 to 20 feet diameter, and looked very light.

WHAT WAS THE SHAPE?

A little slight bubble in the center, like just enough room for one person’s head. The craft sloped down around from the slight bubble.

Then the next three larger craft were identified as ‘alien craft.’ There was one that was some 30 feet in diameter at least, maybe 35 feet.

WHAT ABOUT COLOR?

The three alien craft were all silver-colored. Those three were not identical, but reasonably the same and the biggest one had a raised dome or cabin on top.

HOW ARE THE ALIEN ONES DIFFERENT FROM THE VRIL?

The outcropping or cabin on top was a little bit higher on the Vril craft, maybe 3 feet high and below on the Vril craft, it was flat on the bottom.

One alien craft had like three little rounded domes on the bottom. On conventional aircraft, you might think they were three radar domes, but on the bottom of the discs. These were on the bottoms of the extraterrestrial craft.

YOU DEFINITELY HEARD COL. JIM TELL YOU THAT THE THREE DISCS IN THE MIDDLE WERE EXTRATERRESTRIAL CRAFT?

Yes, ‘alien craft.’

SO, THERE ARE THE TWO, DULL SILVERY, VRIL CRAFT IN FRONT THAT ARE ABOUT 18 TO 20 FEET IN DIAMETER. THEN THERE ARE THE THREE SHINY SILVER ‘ALIEN’ CRAFT IN THE MIDDLE THAT WERE 30 TO 35 FEET IN DIAMETER.

Yes, and one of the three alien craft a little further back behind the front two might have been 40 feet in diameter. The three alien craft were not the same diameters. They were like small, medium and large, like 30, 35 and 40 feet in diameter.

And the designs were slightly different. The largest one had a very low cabin area, but the whole craft were thicker than the other two smaller ones. The two smaller ones were thinner craft with higher center areas.

DID ALL THREE HAVE THE THREE ROUNDED DOMES ON THE BOTTOM?

No, just the larger one.

WHAT WERE THE BOTTOMS LIKE ON THE TWO SMALLER ALIEN CRAFT?

As far as I could see, they were just a smooth and slightly curved bottom. Nothing was protruding down.

WHAT WAS THE SOURCE OF THE ALIEN CRAFT?

Col. Jim said all three were from New Mexico.

ANY SPECIFIC GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATIONS?

All Col. Jim said was, ‘We got these three alien craft from New Mexico.’ He didn’t specify a Roswell or other location. We saw one of the craft had been dismantled in one area because it was open on one side. We could see it was open, but from where we were standing, we could not see from the back side inside. That possibly could have been one of the Roswell crashes they were studying for back-engineering and left it apart.

DID COL. JIM SAY ANYTHING SPECIFIC ABOUT THE THREE ALIEN CRAFT?

I asked him what the propulsion system was on the three alien craft. Col. Jim at Area 51 said alien craft propulsion systems were anti-magnetic and anti-gravitational on two of the craft and one had an anti-matter type propulsion that was much more complicated than the other two. Apparently they thought that the anti-matter propulsion was older and more complicated than the newer anti-gravitational systems in the other two craft.

BEYOND THE FRONT TWO VRIL CRAFT, THE THREE ALIEN CRAFT IN THE MIDDLE, HOW MANY MORE WERE THERE IN THAT PAPOOSE MOUNTAIN CAVE HANGAR?

There were two more. One was about 50 feet in diameter and is kind of a different structure. Those craft had much larger structures protruding upward, like maybe 8 or 10 feet above the disc. And below on those, one was just a slightly curved bottom but mostly flat. The other one also had just a curved bottom, but it had a gun emplacement of some kind hanging from it. Col. Jim said the Germans called it a ‘death ray,’ something they had been developing in early WWII.

DID COL. JIM SAY THOSE TWO LARGER CRAFT IN THE BACK WERE GERMAN?

Yes, German craft and they found them, I believe, in Germany in the back of the Messerschmitt aircraft plant down in southern Germany near Austria.

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...

“The wonder weapons are the hope. It is laughable and senseless for us to threaten at this moment, without a basis in reality for these threats. The well-known mass destruction bombs are nearly ready. In only a few days, with the utmost meticulous intelligence, Hitler will probably execute this fearful blow, because he will have full confidence.... It appears that there are three bombs and each has an astonishing operation. The construction of each unit is fearfully complex and of a lengthy time of completion.”   - Benito Mussolini, April 22, 1945, Political Testament

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“We have invisible aircraft, submarines, colossal tanks and cannon, unbelievably powerful rockets, and a bomb with a working that will astonish the whole world. The enemy knows this, and besieges and attempts to destroy us. But we will answer this destruction with a storm and that without unleashing a bacteriological war, for which we are also prepared.... All my words are the purest truth. That you will see. We still have things that need to be finished, and when they are finished, they will turn the tide.”   - Adolf Hitler, March 13, 1945, addressing German Ninth Army Officers

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...

.... Many people thought the German V-1, V-2 and V-3 rockets were the Nazi ‘wonder weapons,’ but that was not true. The discs were the wonder weapons with their speed and anti-gravitational technology.

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...

Panels with depressions of six-fingered hand prints allegedly found
with the six-fingered humanoids in May 31 to June 2, 1947, recovery operation at
crash site southwest of Socorro, New Mexico. Photograph from
16mm film © 1996 by Orbital Media Ltd.

WHILE YOU WERE THERE, DID YOU EVER SEE ANY CONTROL PANELS LIKE THE ONES IN THE 1995 SANTILLI TV BROADCAST FILM?

I saw control panels in drawings of them, the 6-fingered control panels.

WHERE DID YOU SEE THE DRAWINGS?

I saw those in the Roswell file itself at CIA Langley. I saw pictures similar to the Santilli film with the symbols on it and they had several printed pages fastened to the drawings that described how the 6-fingered panels worked  with fingertip controls. The controls were tied to fibers that at first they could not identify how they worked. They saw little fibers running off to the end that plugged in and they did not know it was fiber optics because they had not been invented! In the printed pages that went with the drawings of the panels, they described ‘fiber filaments.’

THAT’S WHAT INVESTIGATORS LOOKED AT UNDER A MICROSCOPE?

Yes. It described them checking at least one of the hand panels and found that all the ‘fiber filaments’ that we now know are fiber optics were all tied into the electrical current throughout the craft. It also said in that printed text that there were so many ‘fiber filaments’ in that craft that when it was picked up from the crash site, it had a slight glow to it from all the fiber optics in it. The craft glowed in the dark! The pages attached to the 6-fingered panel drawings said that all the walls of the craft glowed, everything was wired in this Roswell craft for electrical current.

WHEN THE BEINGS HAD THEIR HANDS PLACED INTO THE PANELS, WHAT HAPPENED?

Our investigators came to understand that the 6-fingered imprinted panels controlled all the craft’s functioning, including the anti-gravitational device. Our investigators did not know which finger did what on the control panel, but they knew all the fingers were primary to complete control of the craft, a craft apparently entirely guided by the beings’ hands.

WHEN THEIR HANDS WERE IN THE PANELS THAT WERE FIBER OPTICALLY CONNECTED TO THE CRAFT, DIDN’T YOU MENTION READING ABOUT THE ENTIRE CRAFT BECOMING A CAPACITOR?

On the print out that I saw in the Roswell file, the investigators did not find a distinct power plant in the Roswell craft they were studying. It was as if the entire craft provided the electromagnetic and anti-gravity fields and even the aliens that flew the craft – like their uniforms were tied right into the electronic field and maybe the aliens themselves.

Besides the 6-fingered control panels, they had pictures of the headbands that the aliens wore. The combination of the headbands and the fingers in the panels, the aliens could guide the craft.

THE HEADBANDS WERE IN THE ROSWELL FILE AT CIA LANGLEY?

Yes.

LT. COL. PHILIP J. CORSO ALSO TALKED ABOUT ALIEN HEADBANDS.  

It mentioned that human pilots tried the headbands hooked up to mild electric current, but all they got out of it was violent headaches. Naturally our brains would be different from theirs and whatever caused the craft to go one way or the other for the aliens didn’t work for the human brains.

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Alien Headbands: Pages 98 - 99, The Day After Roswell
© 1997 by Lt. Col. Philip J. Corso

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There was very little information. The film was about ten years old when I and our team saw it. They just said this is the only film of the aliens and the body. There are photos taken by various citizens showing these aliens outside their craft walking around. But this is the only film that shows a close picture of the aliens and exactly what they look like. So, if you run across any more of these sightings that describe this particular 6-fingered being, you can compare against this film.

DID YOU EVER SEE THE SYMBOLS ON THE I-BEAMS IN THE SANTILLI FILM?

Yes, and it was listed on documents as ‘alien hieroglyphics.’ Before I left the military service, I saw more information that the hieroglyphics were actually ancient Greek.

THAT’S WHAT I REPORTED IN MY BOOK, GLIMPSES OF OTHER REALITIES, VOL. II: HIGH STRANGENESS, BECAUSE IT WAS EASY TO MATCH THE SANTILLI SYMBOLS WITH ANCIENT GREEK. SO, WHY WOULDN’T THE INTELLIGENCE OPERATIVES IN 1947 HAVE IMMEDIATELY RECOGNIZED GREEK LETTERS?

Yeah, in the reports where it mentioned alien hieroglyphics, I saw one paragraph on the last page of it that said some letters compared to early Greek. And that was in the 1950s.

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274 posted on 02/26/2009 8:33:27 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: JoeProBono

night night.

Merry Christmas.


275 posted on 02/26/2009 8:33:59 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

“I’m convinced that program is

—picking up in speed
—picking up in intensity
—picking up in complexity and drama

You disagree?”

Quix, my observation is that alot of “stuff” is accelerating...witness how all these “stimulus” packages are being rushed thru...it really seems that there is some kind of agenda that we are seeing outplayed in the political arena and these disclosure type incidence’s..I wonder if it is all part of the plan of the NWO being outpictured that you commented on many posts ago...
Night night!


276 posted on 02/26/2009 8:53:18 PM PST by BigSkyVic
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To: BigSkyVic

Sure appears that way to me.

Excellent observation, imho.

Thanks big.

Night night.


277 posted on 02/26/2009 8:59:44 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: BigSkyVic; Joya; JoeProBono

Now for something different . . . a humor break.

Have been looking for years . . . now just searched You Tube . . .

Have missed a classic video of elephants and monkeys getting drunk from over-ripe fruit in South Africa . . . so here’s some links about such.

I still haven’t found the classic one . . . that’s more hillarious than these . . . the one I’m looking for has a large tree with some clear area around it and elephants and monkeys etc. all getting drunk on the fruit and behaving absolutely hillariously.

If any you find it, please let me know

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmQPwgV-WbQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyWd7ozjwbA


278 posted on 02/26/2009 9:20:58 PM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix; Joya

Post 278; later; thx.


279 posted on 02/27/2009 3:53:43 AM PST by Joya (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: BigSkyVic; ALASKA; airborne; areafiftyone; aruanan; A South Park Republican; auggy; AU72; Aroha; ...
ABBREVIATED UFO PING LIST PING--MEDIUM FREQUENCY PINGS

Continuing excerpts from earthfiles.com re IKE AND NIXON MEETINGS . . .

Whole docs AND VERY INTERESTING PHOTOS Available for subscribers at:

LINK ONE:

LINK TWO:

http://www.earthfiles.com/index.php?category=Headline+News

LINK THREE:

http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1523&category=Real+X-Files

.

FROM LINK ONE:

January 7, 2009 - Part 16:  Army/CIA Unit Studied
the Real UFO Blue Book Cases.
  Click for Real X-File.

“I wonder if this triangle craft is coming from an entirely
different place? Entirely different aliens? Just what is this?”
  
 - Richard M. Nixon, V. President, Oval Office, Fall 1958

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Special Real X-Files: Electronic Reprints



The Crash/Retrievals Status Reports, I - VII © 1978-1994 by Leonard H. Stringfield.

The Cattle Mutilators © 1980 by John J. Dalton.

Chapter 18 excerpt:  “We are from a different dimension, a different plane of existence. We have no boundaries or limits, as you have. We are an anti-log of everything you see visually. We can travel in any dimension and occupy the same area as say, earth, but not the same time or space without being observed. The possibilities of existence are infinite.”

The Unthinkable Truth © 1976 by Fredrick Smith.

 

Mystery Stalks the Prairie © 1976 by Roberta Donovan and Cascade County, Montana Sheriff's Deputy Keith Wolverton.The first book by an American deputy sheriff about his firsthand investigations of animal mutilations and associated high strangeness around Great Falls, Montana in the 1970s. Out of print since 1979, see this important classic.

 

What Are the Large Triangular Aircraft Seen Around the World?
By Rich Dolan, Author, UFOs and the National Security State.

 

Peculiar Phenomenon - See Real X-Files Reports 

“The object that had appeared next to the launched V-2 was defined as 'hostile'
since it appeared to have caused the rocket to veer off course. Therefore, that
unidentified disc was considered to be an advanced
foreign weapon system.”
 - J. Andrew Kissner

FROM LINK TWO:

Part 16:  Army/CIA Unit Studied the Real UFO Blue Book Cases

© 2009 by Linda Moulton Howe


“I wonder if this triangle craft is coming from an entirely
different place? Entirely different aliens? Just what is this?”
  
 - Richard M. Nixon, V. President, Oval Office, Fall 1958

 

Return to Part 1

Return to Part 15

January 7, 2009  Albuquerque, New Mexico -  My June 29, 1998, interview with Stein at his Florida home continues from Part 15, in which he describes in more detail an Oval Office meeting about UFOs with Vice President Richard Nixon in the fall of 1958 and the photographs shown to Nixon then, followed by a brief meeting in April 1959 with both Nixon and President Dwight Eisenhower in FBI headquarters, Washington, D. C.

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“DID NIXON MAKE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT HIS OWN CONFUSION OR FRUSTRATION ABOUT WHO EXACTLY WAS RUNNING THE AREA 51 OPERATION, ABOUT WHICH HE, AS VICE PRESIDENT, COULD NOT GET ANSWERS?

Yes. He told us he was very upset that he could not get any direct answers either. Nixon said he was passing all the information on to Ike and that it seemed like ‘we’re all on the outside looking in.’ Then he said being on the outside was not the place to be if you are the U. S. President and Vice President trying to run the show. So, Nixon was going to speak to President Eisenhower about that. I don’t know what happened, but you would assume that Ike would have pulled whoever was in charge at Area 51 into the White House for a long talk.

EVEN IF THAT HAPPENED, DID IT CHANGE ANYTHING?

Not that we knew. Of course, Anthony and I never went back to Area 51 together, so I don’t know if anything changed or not.

 

Photographs Shown to Nixon, Fall 1958

WHAT EXACTLY DID YOU LAY OUT ON THE SURFACE OF THE OVAL OFFICE DESK FOR NIXON TO SEE?

Different photographs such as the Italian one. We had a tape recorder with us to play back the interviews we had with the eyewitnesses. We were going to play them back to Nixon, but he said he would rather that we just tell him what was on the tape. So we talked about what was on that particular Italian tape. We had sent CIA agents to Italy to interview the man and woman, the couple.

THERE WAS A PARALLEL BETWEEN THE ITALIAN PHOTO AND THE MONTANA ANACONDA MINE PHOTO – THE SAME SORT OF DISC AND SMALL BEINGS OUTSIDE PICKING STUFF OFF THE GROUND?

Yes. The craft were not entirely identical, but they were very close and the aliens came out, picked up stuff from the ground and went back into the craft.

ITALY WAS PINE CONES. MONTANA WAS THE COPPER ORE.

Yes.

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. . .

Area 51 - Not Honest with President Eisenhower
and Vice President Nixon?

BUT THERE WAS THE LIVE, GREY ALIEN AT AREA 51 THAT COULD COMMUNICATE TELEPATHICALLY AND APPARENTLY HAD BEEN THERE FOR SOME TIME. WHY WOULDN’T AMERICAN LEADERS BE GIVEN MORE INSIGHTS ABOUT WHO? WHAT? FROM WHERE?

Right, Nixon said the information he had gotten from Area 51 about the grey alien there was that the being told everyone it was from the planet with the long number and name and that they were on Earth not to do harm, but were trying to help. Nixon said the grey being gave the same answers every time it was interviewed, but nothing solid was ever confirmed. Nixon said that if the grey being got a question it didn’t like, the being would not answer, just like the grey being is the top of security for someone else! (laughs)

So, Nixon was frustrated that everyone got the same information, which was basically of very little help.

DID YOU OR ANTHONY BRING UP THE FACT THAT YOU HAD ASKED ABOUT WHETHER THE GREY BEING WAS RELATED TO DEMONS IN ANY WAY? DID YOU TALK ABOUT THAT WITH NIXON?

Not with Nixon, no. Nixon just looked at the beings as aliens that were able to operate on their own. The ‘extraterrestrial biological entity’ phrase never came out in any of those meetings. Nixon and everyone else just called them ‘aliens,’ and that was it. No one talked about specific types of aliens. Not ‘Greys,’ except the only time I ever heard the word ‘Greys’ was when Col. Jim taking us through Area 51 mentioned that the alien being we were seeing was a ‘Grey.’ That’s the only time I heard that term used.

IN BOTH MEETINGS WITH NIXON AND THE LATER SPRING MEETING WITH NIXON AND EISENHOWER, NOTHING WAS DISCUSSED ABOUT ALIEN DIFFERENCES AND AGENDAS? DID EISENHOWER ASK ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE 6-FINGERED HUMANOIDS AND THE GREY BEINGS?

No, President Eisenhower just referred to them as different types of ‘aliens’ At that time apparently, there was no information about the 6-fingered aliens and where they were from. At least that never came up in the meetings.

I remember saying to Anthony after one of the meetings, ‘Gee, this was a wash! We didn’t accomplish a thing!’

THE BLIND LEADING THE BLIND.

Yes. I always had the feeling that whoever was in charge of Area 51 was above the normal government. The Area 51 people probably told Eisenhower and Nixon exactly what they wanted to tell them and nothing more. And as I said, even Nixon commented, ‘We’re on the outside looking in.’

BUT HOW COULD THAT HAVE OCCURRED UNLESS PRESIDENT TRUMAN SIGNED SOME KIND OF EXECUTIVE ORDER SETTING IN MOTION A GROUP THAT WAS IMMUNE FROM CONGRESSIONAL OVERSIGHT? THERE HAD TO HAVE BEEN AN EXECUTIVE ORDER TO SET UP THE AUTHORITY OVER THE ALIEN PHENOMENON.

Well, remember that even J. Edgar Hoover took it upon himself to do whatever he thought the FBI should be doing since he invented the FBI. You could never tell Hoover exactly what the FBI should be doing because his mind was closed to outside influence.

I have a feeling that whoever was in charge of the TOP SECRET alien stuff decided what would be said or not said, including saying nothing of consequence to presidents after Truman. It seems to me that the Majestic 12 group set up by Truman has run it all by itself outside normal channels.

 

Nixon Used Term “Majestic”
“Getting information out of Majestic is like
milking a cow that’s dry.”
- Richard M. Nixon

DID YOU HEAR EITHER NIXON OR EISENHOWER EVER USE THE TERM ‘MJ-12’ OR ‘MAJESTIC 12’?  [ Twelve military, business men and scientists appointed by Truman to study the UFO phenomenon in 1947. See Majestic Documents website below.]

Nixon used the term ‘Majestic.’ He said that Majestic started this thing and were the first people who started it in the 1940s. Nixon said, ‘Getting information out of Majestic is like milking a cow that’s dry.’

NIXON REALLY SAID THAT?

Yes.

IN THE FALL 1958 WHITE HOUSE MEETING?

Yes.

BUT HE’S VICE PRESIDENT. DIDN’T YOU ALL TALK WITH HIM ABOUT WHY HE AND PRESIDENT EISENHOWER COULD NOT SIMPLY ORDER ALL MAJESTIC-12 INFORMATION TO BE DELIVERED TO THE AMERICAN LEADERS?

No.

IF PRESIDENT EISENHOWER WAS FRUSTRATED AND WANTED TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF THE ALIEN PHENOMENON, WHY COULDN’T HE ORDER EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT MAJESTIC-12 HAD?

Well, I know that at the last spring 1959 meeting I had with them, President Eisenhower actually said, ‘We need new USAF people on this. We can’t continue in the same mode we are in. We aren’t accomplishing a thing. We don’t know anything more than we did in the late 1940s and we need new people.’

When we walked out of the Oval Office, the USAF colonel in that particular meeting said, ‘Boy, I guess I’m fired!’ (laughs)

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...

LINK THREE:

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...

Part 17:  Army/CIA Unit Studied the Real UFO Blue Book Cases

© 2009 by Linda Moulton Howe


“We (CIA) gave President Eisenhower the report we had
that U. S. naval ships had radar screen information about saucer craft
coming in from outer space and going into the South Pole
and down into the Argentina region.”
  - “Stein,” Former Army/CIA UFO Analyst

 

Return to Part 1

Return to Part 16

February 4, 2009  Albuquerque, New Mexico -  My June 29, 1998, interview with Stein at his Florida home continues from Part 16, in which he described an April 1959 meeting with both President Dwight David Eisenhower and Vice President Richard M. Nixon at FBI Headquarters in Washington, D. C. that began with a UFO photo from Puerto Rico.

.

...

“TALK ABOUT THE PUERTO RICO PHOTOGRAPH.

Yes, we were talking about the photograph in Puerto Rico of a flying disc. I told Pres. Eisenhower in that meeting at FBI headquarters that the photograph looked like a German Haunebu II and the president said, ‘I think you’re right.’

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...

Die Glocke RFZ (RundFlugZeug, or Round Aircraft) series from 1934-41. As war had started
in 1939 the RFZ-5 became the Haunebu I (photographed above) and by 1941
the RFZ-7 had become the Vril 1.
Source:  medem.kiev.ua.

DID PRES. EISENHOWER ELABORATE ABOUT WHAT WAS GERMAN AND WHAT WAS NOT IN TERMS OF THE DISCS?

No, he didn’t. He just agreed with me that it looked like a German Haunebu II, so the president had to be familiar with the different types of craft, just from looking at photographs. I always had the feeling that Pres. Eisenhower knew more than we knew and that he knew a lot more than what Nixon knew. Nixon was not completely in the loop on this material because Nixon was always frustrated that he was outside looking in.

.

...

YOU OR NIXON DIDN’T SAY ANYTHING TO EISENHOWER?

No, you could never say anything like that in front of Pres. Eisenhower, like ‘Why didn’t you tell me?’ He would kick you out of the office!

BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE NIXON SAYING TO EISENHOWER THAT HE KNEW HE WAS OUT OF THE INFORMATION LOOP?

Yes. Nixon would never have gone to Eisenhower and asked him, ‘Why didn’t I get this information?’ At that time, Eisenhower would have chewed him up and down and never have given Nixon another ounce of information on anything. That’s the way Eisenhower operated – he was a lean, mean machine! You had to carry out orders very precisely with him. One detail left out and you were in the doghouse.

 

1959 Argentina Photographs

AFTER THE FIRST MEETING WITH NIXON ALONE IN NOVEMBER 1958, YOU AND ANTHONY BARDEN WENT BACK TO YOUR SOUTHEASTERN MILITARY BASE. WHAT DID YOU DO AFTER THAT? DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER HIGHLY CLASSIFIED MEETINGS WITH ANYONE WHO HAD REALLY SENSITIVE UFO FILM OR PHOTOGRAPHS?

I remember in January 1959, we had a courier bring in a bunch of foreign photographs. At that time, we had a photograph of an alien craft taken from a United States boat off the shore of Argentina in the south Atlantic. That’s the photograph we showed Pres. Eisenhower in April 1959, and I told him that it looked like a Haunebu II and he replied, ‘Yes,’ he agreed.

.

...

BUT GERMAN CRAFT WAS THE MINORITY CATEGORY?

Oh, yes, by far the minority – at least for overseas. Now, the United States – we don’t really know how many came for investigation and how many the FBI handled or what they all looked like. I do remember that when the U. S. plane with cameras on it flew up through the formation of saucers, those looked like the German technology in terms of appearance.

.

...

U. S. Navy Radar Picked Up UFOs
Coming from Outer Space to Argentina and South Pole

We (CIA) gave President Eisenhower the report we had that U. S. naval ships had radar screen information about saucer craft coming in from outer space and going into the South Pole and down into the Argentina region. I told President Eisenhower this from the report we had about a new package of radar contacts.

WHEN YOU SAID THAT, DID EISENHOWER HAVE MORE COMMENTS?

He did not seem surprised. He said something like, ‘That is to be expected.’ Or, ‘We expected this.’ The news didn’t seem that important to him. It seemed like it was something Eisenhower was already familiar with and already knew and that we were just reviewing for him stuff that Ike had already seen. That’s what I gathered from the meeting. He might have received a report from CIA headquarters when it first came out, but we got it in January 1959.

OR GOT IT FROM MAJESTIC-12?

I don’t know how long the Majestic-12 people were in business. I do know there were references to Majestic-12 back to the 1940s. I don’t know if they existed under that specific name at the end of the 1950s.

 

President Eisenhower Referenced Majestic-12

DID EISENHOWER EVER REFERENCE MAJESTIC 12?

Yes. At one time, we were looking at the different photographs and Ike mentioned that he had told Nixon, ‘This looks familiar.’ It was an aerial shot over The Netherlands. Eisenhower said, ‘Contact Majestic-12 on this and verify if this is the same thing that MJ-12 had sent three months ago,’ or some time line like that.

.

...

I never saw anything in regard to ‘MAJIC,’ but I heard about Majestic-12 in CIA meetings and what they were doing. We never got any photos that were stamped on the back, ‘MAJESTIC-12,’ or ‘MAJIC,’ or ‘MAJESTIC’ or anything like that.

MAYBE THERE WERE PARALLEL TRACKS OF INTELLIGENCE AND THAT MAJESTIC-12 MIGHT HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR THE NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL? THE CIA WOULD HAVE BEEN DOING ITS OWN INTELLIGENCE INVESTIGATIONS. THE FBI WOULD BE DOING ITS OWN INVESTIGATIONS. THE ARMY, AIR FORCE, NAVY AND ALL THOSE PARALLEL TRACKS – AND SOMETIMES INVESTIGATING EACH OTHER.

Yes.

.

...

Nixon said Ike was really disappointed in the UFO research and that we needed new blood to move it all along because no one was accomplishing much. Nixon said that was Ike’s perception and that’s when the USAF colonel said to Anthony Barden and me, ‘Well, it looks like I’m out of a job!’

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...

Did President Eisenhower Visit An Alien Being
in California on February 20, 1954?

THERE IS A RUMOR THAT PRESIDENT EISENHOWER WENT TO SEE A NON-HUMAN BEING IN CALIFORNIA.

I  never saw anything like that in any meeting we had and nothing was ever brought up that Ike had seen an alien or spoken with an alien or whatever it might have been.

 

[ Editor’s Note:  On February 19, 2004, The Washington Post published a 50th anniversary update by reporter Peter Carlson about President Dwight Eisenhower's visit to Palm Springs California, on February 20, 1954. UFO Evidence archived the Post article this way:

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...

FBI Was Investigating Human Abductions
and Animal Mutilations by Aliens
“T
he FBI told us that they had a lot of sightings,
but nothing out of the ordinary except for human abductions.
...we’ve also had some more cattle mutilations and things of that nature,
but nothing extremely different about the UFO craft themselves.”

DO YOU REMEMBER ANYTHING SPECIFIC THAT NIXON SAID OR ASKED IN THE MEETING WITH EISENHOWER IN APRIL 1959?

No, he said very little as we went over our material. Then he said, ‘Do you guys have anything else to bring up?’ We said, ‘No.’ And he said, ‘Well, we’re ready for the FBI report.’ Then Nixon said to an FBI representative who was there, ‘In your report, is there anything that might be of interest to the CIA as far as looking for unusual types of craft overseas?’ The FBI told us that they had a lot of sightings, but nothing out of the ordinary except for human abductions.

THE FBI SAID THAT?

Yes. The FBI said they were investigating two abductions in which people claimed they were up in a saucer and came back. The two people had a neighbor who took a photograph of the craft. The two people plus the neighbor suggested to the FBI that the case was probably accurate, they told us. The FBI guy said, ‘Outside of that, we’ve also had some more cattle mutilations and things of that nature, but nothing extremely different about the UFO craft themselves.’

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...

The General is connected to the Roswell UFO incident in 1947as he headed the committee responsible for the Pentagon's files and recovered UFO items, according to Lt. Col. Corso, who worked for General Trudeau. Col. Corso says that General Trudeau actually managed a covert mission from his Pentagon office to disseminate recovered alien technology for American industries to back-engineer. ]

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...

N TERMS OF THE DISCUSSION WITH NIXON OR ANYBODY ELSE IN WASHINGTON, D. C. ABOUT ABDUCTIONS, DO YOU REMEMBER ANYONE MAKING A COMMENT OR INTERPRETATION ABOUT WHAT THE ABDUCTIONS COULD MEAN?

We’d gotten paper work earlier about human abductions, that the abducted people reported that a bright light came in their bedroom and they floated out the windows and up into a craft and were operated on or were inspected like a physical exam. Then they were back in their beds when they woke up in the morning. I remember one example that they had was a woman who floated out  her bedroom window. There was a hedge with leaves on it outside and she grabbed the hedge and let go of the leaves back through the window inside her room.

In the morning, she couldn’t remember what happened. But when she saw the hedge leaves by the window, then she remembered that she grabbed the leaves and reached back toward the window sill and purposefully dropped leaves inside her bedroom and there were hedge leaves inside her bedroom. So, she knew that she definitely was abducted. She was not dreaming it.

THIS IS PART OF ONE OF THE FILES THAT YOU AND YOUR CIA UNIT AT THE SOUTHEASTERN MILITARY BASE RECEIVED?

Yes, it was one file we received as an example. I don’t know the date of that case. I think we got that example along with other files right after the August 1958 trip to Area 51. A bunch of material was sent to us like that for our information to read in case we ran across foreign abductions.

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PERHAPS more to follow depending on today's priorities. The articles are worth reading as a whole at the links.

I may try and get the photo of the German type craft much bigger than a house . . . if I can track it down through Google etc. and get a link to it that's hot linkable.


280 posted on 02/27/2009 7:21:10 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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