Fighter jets scrambled after UFO follows plane over Athens: jets were scrambled to intercept a UFO

telegraph.co.uk ^ | 9:30AM GMT 10 Feb 2009 | Matthew Moore

[JoeProBono]

The object was spotted by the pilot of Olympic Airways flight 266 from Athens, and the sighting was corroborated by staff at Athens Airport and a nearby Greek air force base. Pilots of two other passenger jets also reported seeing the body.The eyewitnesses described it as looking like a large star, although it was moving erratically and constantly changing shape.Two fighter jets were sent to investigate the sighting over the Greek capital in November 2007 but the object shot up into the sky and vanished before they could get a clear view.

[Quix]

Naw.

I know the clay whereof I was dug.

[Quix]

Yeah, . . . where the rubber meets the road is the key thing.

Plenty going on.

More looming. Will try and catch you up in due course.

At present . . . students seem to have settled in and much prefer my style to the typical prof they have. That’s always welcome. They feel like they learn something, aren’t bored and have a lot of practical, meaningful stuff to use in their lives at the end of the day.

Of course, the naysayers still don’t think I can tie my shoes, tell which way is up or know my left from my right.

But the haughty critiques of the willfully blind are mostly amusing . . . though I’m a bit surprised at the huge increase in hypocrisy with the current crop.

Health and wholeness to you and yours. I trust you are preparing for whatever’s looming down the Pike?

Good to see your name.

LUBB

[Quix]

I know. I’d prefer that, too.

Given the great unlikelihood of that . . . at least I can give them mild doses of their own medicine . . . though . . .

actually . . . they have this rabidly mean streak compulsively given to

attacking person-hood, sanity, IQ, etc. etc. etc. with great visciousness and hostility . . .

then when someone assaults their silly ideas, their crazy blind notions, their inadequate perspectives . . .

they wail and whine like 2 year olds.

Ahhhhh . . . well . . . adds some fiestiness to the threads and helps keep them bumped. So, they do us a service, in spite of their willful blindness and haughty hostilities.

[familyop]

freeplancer:
"You seem to imply that UFOs are not real. Do you think there is no such thing as UFOs?"

stockpirate:
"Those who write anti-UFO propaganda in an effort to decieve people as to what is really going on should be.............."

LOL! Some men in a trailer park have been surveying the other half in the land of their bosses on the other side of the hill: "the other half," if you know what I mean. The survey is for the purpose of finding out how many of the survey respondents believe in the existence of "UFOs" sent by non-earth aliens. The question is asked during off-work conversations and the like whenever tactfully feasible. LOL!

So far, it appears that the results will overwhelmingly prove that intelligence has been decreasing over the past few generations in the population on the other side of the hill (executives breeding with their own cousins in government jobs--a big no-no).

And BTW, the methodology is pretty good, actually, although the workers (also mostly owners of small properties and becoming legitimate contractors of various sorts after discovering some innovations that need to be implemented) did each have a little training for their respective jobs. Consider it to be a reply to a Abominable Snowman survey sent our way a few years ago and the current, hilarious junk being distributed to the UK public.

It's more fun than a gambling pool for sure!

[familyop]

...an Abominable Snowman survey, even. And BTW, Sasquatch Boy (probably a securities broker) was laughed out of the ghetto.

[Quix]

Hmmmmmm . . .

And this was a coherent essay asserting . . . just what . . . in summary???

I THINK I get the drift . . . but I wouldn’t bet on it.

And I thought some of my stream-of-consciousness prose was troublesome! LOL.

[stockpirate]

Well at least you’re happy now that your guy is in the WH.

[familyop]

"I THINK I get the drift . . . but I wouldn’t bet on it."

We recent peons--some now contractors and others preparing--from the other side of the peaks did notice too many boilers and overly deep foundations for producing radiant floor heat. ...lazy, ignorant, gluttonous, drunken, effete builders and architects (architects using the International Residential Code intended for the un-degreed, un-anointed rabble instead of their IBC). Our coup is nearly ready, and the beast will be put down while wounded from its own misdeeds (monster projects, derivatives). We've only been having a little fun on the side while scouting (from ditch-digging to woodwork). ;-)

[familyop]

"Well at least you’re happy now that your guy is in the WH."

So we who subtly ridicule the UFO and other conspiracy tale efforts are now Obama voters? That's a baldly funny fallacy. "The Marching Morons" (Kornbluth, Cyril) was indeed a great short story, although most of us, as young readers, didn't know that at the time. As our elite become retarded brutes through their effort to continue control over their big governments and politically correct "enterprises," we salute them with much laughter.

[familyop]

And BTW, the “Obama” signs were planted on most of the lots and SUV bumpers belonging to our government/corporate bosses—not ours. Their political efforts, especially around their second homes in resort areas, were devoid of Republican signs. ...common knowledge that they take political orders from their profluent, and often intimately and diversely known youngest daughters.

...me? After so many years of having voted Republican before, I’m unaffiliated. I don’t care to learn Mandarin. No thank you, I’m not Catholic (see early America). I’m not interested in reviving slavery by way of global laws and destructions of sovereignty. Israel is fine and has a right to support from allies against pagan hordes. I am against continuing social programs for busting families and don’t care for feminism. And our Constitution, amendments included, will be defended and preserved.

[Quix]

...me? After so many years of having voted Republican before, I’m unaffiliated. I don’t care to learn Mandarin. No thank you, I’m not Catholic (see early America). I’m not interested in reviving slavery by way of global laws and destructions of sovereignty. Israel is fine and has a right to support from allies against pagan hordes. I am against continuing social programs for busting families and don’t care for feminism. And our Constitution, amendments included, will be defended and preserved.

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SOUNDS GREAT.

Would love to see it proven true.

Sigh.

[familyop]

"SOUNDS GREAT.

Would love to see it proven true.

Sigh."

Thank you. Let's make it come true, then. Become "nonpolitical" (see Vaclav Havel). ...no violence necessary, but the rest can be ultimately effective. Cheer the government spending on with zeal! IMO, the Government will have much difficulty avoiding a general default. Raising taxes will cause revenues to shrink even more. I know that such a scenario is exceedingly ugly, but it's probably the only way. We need new blood in government and business (businesses that comprise the bulk of favored, controlling constituents and sponsor most public opinion, AKA, the "MSM").



In other words, give them what they're asking for. And in the meantime, obtain needed tools (machine tools or the like) and learn to make something useful as a hobby. Later, after the default, the hobby could be a small manufacturing start.

[familyop]

Oh...and raise a garden. Grocers recently raised some prices out of fear, even during an otherwise deflationary period. Show them that such fear begets poverty.

[Quix]

I’m
a weaver
a potter
a gardener
a furniture maker
a photographer
a jewelry maker
a landscaper
a designer
. . .

and a psychologist . . .

& can also lay a block wall

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The Oligarchy is deliberately crashing the world’s economy in order to force the tyrannical global system on the planet and all the serfs and slaves.

Won’t be solved until Jesus bodily returns.

[Quix]

They MAY engineer a brief ‘recovery’ that boosts everyone’s spirits etc. for some months or maybe even a year or so.

Then the terminal crash will set in . . .

[familyop]

...very good (on your skills)! IMO, plutocracy might also describe our developing world leadership to some extents (not all rich folks being politicos). But consider some of the things that might happen, if the currencies more suddenly and steeply turn toward inflation than anticipated? The constituents behind our leaders often get the political actions that they demand, but the eventual outcomes of those actions might not always be what they wanted. Your skills could be worth more than much money or gold at some point in time.

Here are a couple of repeats of some of my posts for you, in case they might be of some help.


I'm going to try polycarbonate glazing for greenhouses and some short solar walls under windows. The following site is the first one that I found, so the glazing (polycarbonite plastic) can probably be had for lower costs. It also appears that each price at the following site is for several sheets of the stuff (5 or so?). It comes in twin-wall...

http://www.charleysgreenhouse.com/193-247-1023-1--TwinWall-6mm.Htmhttp://www.charleysgreenhouse.com/193-247-1023-1--TwinWall-6mm.Htm

three-wall...

http://www.charleysgreenhouse.com/193-247-1021-2--Heat-Saver-3-Wall-6mm.Htm

four-wall...

http://www.charleysgreenhouse.com/193-247-1024-3--4-Wall-8mm-Polycarbonate.Htm

...and another kind for roofing greenhouses.

http://www.charleysgreenhouse.com/193-247-1022-4---IR-Infrared-TwinWall-Roof-Panels-6mm.Htm

...and hardware to fasten it together. I'll probably build far tougher framing than what they're selling for it, but the bar caps might be alright. Hopefully the panels will bend enough for me to build greenhouses in quonset hut shapes. ...and snow fences and berms (for slowing down the wind).

What if fuel for heat for your home becomes too hard to get or expensive? Gary the retired engineer has a huge wealth of good information for very low cost projects and links to many others.

http://www.builditsolar.com/Experimental/PEXColDHW/Overview.htm


Those things were actually found during searches for ideas to put into my small house plan for a remote, off-grid area. I have some building education and experience, will be installing a water well pump system next month and getting a copy of the International Residential Code soon for making the plans. ...not so much for any doomsday scenario but mostly for the eventual peace and quiet of living there (hopefully).

[familyop]

"and a psychologist . . ."

And thank you (sincerely). Please allow me this moment away from serious matters. The thought of a possible result from you on an MMPI (re. UFOs and Jesus) brightened my day with a little humor! ;-)

And no, I'm not a psychologist. But there was general psych, my bookworm-ish way and a good friend at a university who went all the way with psych. ...a healthy and analytical friend, too, I might add.

[familyop]

"They MAY engineer a brief ‘recovery’ that boosts everyone’s spirits etc. for some months or maybe even a year or so.

Then the terminal crash will set in . . ."

That might give us some more time. :-) Thank you.

[Quix]

THANKS FOR THE LINKS.

I have a mostly passive raised tomato bed this winter that has done fine in terms of keeping the tomatoes alive . . .

My God-seeded cleverness went along these lines . . .

North, 8’ back wall of the 13’ X 2.5’ block raised bed . . . 4 block high south and East and West sides of the bed . . .

5 10’ long 4” PVC pipes buried in the bed for heat storage;

2 6” PVC pipe uprights . . . one on the West end houses the pond pump that pumps water through 250’ of black garden hose arranged on the inside back wall painted dark blue—I hate black. The other 6” upright receives the output from the 250’ of black garden hose. and connects to the top of the buried back and forth 5 4” PVC buried pipes filled with water.

The West end upright is not sealed. I add water every month and a half or two as it goes down about 8” to a foot in that time from minimal evaporation.

I didn’t get the poly carbonate glazing on top of the verathane coated redwood framing before winter hit. So I wrapped the outsides of the block walls in a couple of layers of foam board insullation wrapped in a couple layers of 6mil plastic sheeting.

Got the poly carbonate 3 layers thick on the East and West ends. Got a couple of the 3 doors mostly finished. Have bubble wrap on top of the single sheeting parts finished and on top of the first layer of sheeting on the rest of the top and on some of the south sides—probably most of the south sides and at least a layer or two on the top between layers of plastic sheeting.

The temp inside has not gotten lower than 40.3* F.

It has often gotten up to 120*F during the NM days. Not good for tomato fruiting—blossoms don’t pollinate above 90* and fruit doesn’t set below 55* at night! LOL.

But the plants have remained vigorous growers.

LOL. Given that the doors are not multilayered poly carbonate yet . . . I end up cutting through the Gorilla duct tape and plastic sheeting every couple of weeks to water the bed then retaping . . . the condensation is incredible inside and seems to help keep things from drying out very fast.

At least come full spring, the plants should be all ready to kick off a fruiting season quite early.

What would I change? I might make the bed 3’ thick front to back. Would get the polycarbonate done before winter! Would probably do 3 layers and maybe 4 on top of polycarbonate with silicone caulk between the layers for an air space.

Want to make 3 or so of the roof panels hinged or easily removable.

Might try and make a couple of light bulbs inside where they don’t have a problem with condensation drips.

Would make it so I could water without unsealing it, if needed. Though finished well foam sealed doors might make that a nonproblem.

Not sure how to fix the wide temp extremes with a passive setup. Venting during the day would help on the high end but dissipate heat storage.

Condensation has to be taking a lot of heat out of the equation, too.

Anyway—has been fun and I think such a design has some promise in our kind of climate. But might not be the wisest setup for tomato fruiting. Might be great for some root crops. Don’t know about peas and beans.

Pond pump is on a timer to come on in the morning and off about 16:00.

Anyway—FWIW.

[Quix]

Actually, even when I was a lot more still messed up from childhood REACTIVE ATTACHMENT DISORDER in my early 20’s my MMPI was shockingly normal.

LOL.

Some of us can play sane as well as analytical . . . and occasionally, even funny.

Happy for such dialogues with you. Thanks yourself.