Congressman Hastings and former U.S.
Attorney General Janet Reno of Miami
Posted on 02/01/2009 6:38:03 PM PST by driftdiver
You said — “It sounds more to me like they are gearing up for some nasty nuclear or biological attack that is in the works. Didn’t someone recently say it’s not if but when. Something is in the wind... you can just feel it.”
The entire government, all the officials, everyone who knows anything about terrorism — they all say — *it is going to happen* without a doubt! There’s an *absolute certainty* of it. And they’ve been saying that for years now. It’s just that no one (in the public) is listening.
It’s just like no one listened to Steven Emerson way back when, when he exposed the terrorists, long before 9/11. They call him a hate-monger. I’m sure the public thinks these “officials” are “doom and gloomers” too... LOL...
So, yes — sooner or later — you’ll probably see a major metropolitan area in the United States *wiped out*... maybe two or three. I understand that the terrorists are gunning for two or three major areas wiped out by nuclear blasts and the weapons are here (in this country already) just waiting for the “timing” to be determined...
That's a very interesting twist on history.
During WWII, we interned the Japanese, ostensibly to keep them from being killed by the majority of the population of the United States (and so they don't spy for the Homeland). So now we intern the majority of citizens instead, in order to protect the minority (who might still be spying for the Homeland)?
It’s going to happen no matter who is President, sooner or later. It doesn’t have to do with who is President
I might agree regarding 9/11 happening on Bush's watch, despite the fact that the terrorists were here since 1998 practicing. I don't buy it that Bush's negligence would lead to an attack during Obama's watch. If an attack happens in the future, it will be because Obama let down our guard, not because of some bad luck that it happened on Obama's watch.
-PJ
It’s “community organizing,” doncha know. Bolivaran Circles, anyone?
You said — “So now we intern the majority of citizens instead, in order to protect the minority (who might still be spying for the Homeland)?”
Nope, they’ll probably put the Muslims in protective custody to prevent them from being killed by the rest of the U.S. population.... LOL...
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And then you said — “I might agree regarding 9/11 happening on Bush’s watch, despite the fact that the terrorists were here since 1998 practicing. I don’t buy it that Bush’s negligence would lead to an attack during Obama’s watch. If an attack happens in the future, it will be because Obama let down our guard, not because of some bad luck that it happened on Obama’s watch.”
If an attack happens, it will be like the Bush Administration has said all along. You cannot prevent all the attacks. And if someone is intent on killing themselves, those are even harder to prevent. And, furthermore, since we’ve let the Hamas and Hezbollah “set up camp” here in the United States, it’s way past the ability to stop them. They are already here... They’ve already “set up” — *inside* — the country. Terrorists are already using the Mexican smugglers and gangs to get the Islamic terrorists into the U.S. These terrorists are paying a lot more money, to smuggle in weapons and more terrorists, than what those miserable “illegals” pay...
All these mosques around the country are probably already huge “weapons stores”, just like they are in the Middle East...
They all said that we have to be lucky 100% of the time, the terrorist only have to be lucky once.
That said, but had processes, techniques, and methods in place to prevent another attack (within the law). I'm afraid that Obama will dismantle the protections that Bush put in place, making us all more vulnerable than we've been in the past.
-PJ
Yes, I doubt it. Not that I doubt many commie-libs would like the idea, but the necessary components are not in place.
They would need the equivalent of SS troops blindly commited to their 'fearless leader', for one thing. Right now, we have the US armed forces. Do you, or does anyone in their clear-thinking mind believe that the same men and women who voluntered to fight Islamo-fascists in the Mid-East (many of whom post right here on FR) would willingly or unwillingly acquiesce to such a plan -- namely, rounding up and imprisoning their own friends and families, at the orders of BHO?
Or the local police depts? They can't even get a handle on the gang problems in their cities.
As for the idea (mentioned in some other posts) that Hamas or Hezbollah infiltrators (who haven't been able to destroy their arch-enemy Israel for 60 years) could do the job -- don't make me laugh, please. There are sleeper cells that could do damage allright, as we saw on 9/11, but even the German gov't in WWII considered an invasion of the USA as out of the question, due to the large numbers of gun owners here.
Now, having said that, I would begin to give some credence to the concentration camp scenario if I saw the following:
A private army dedicated to 'fearless leader'. ie. a REAL army, trained and equipped, not a bunch of teenaged ACORN wackos.
BHO being named President for Life.
Torchlight parades or the equivalent mass rallies, with strange symbolism and hypnotic speeches given by 'fearless leader'.
Total gun confiscation, suspension of habeas corpus, purging the House and Senate of all real conservatives, including yellow-dog Democrats.
I am not saying it COULDN'T happen here, but we are far, far away from THEM (commie-libs) going after US (FR types, gun owners, anyone who values his/her freedom). We outnumber and out gun ANY of the possible groups that have been mentioned as threats in this thread.
Finally, I will note that in the 200+ years of our Republic, the US military has NEVER shown the slightest inclination or intention of grasping for overt political control. And how many people, out of 300 million, could SIX camps hold?
Time to put your paranoia to rest and concentrate on real threats and real solutions. Our current 'fearless leader' lacks the experience, guts and guile to foment and put in place such a plan. Let's be cautious, let's be aware, but keep in mind that the greatest thing to fear is the defeatist mindset that sees disaster right around the corner, and simultaneously doubts the ability of the American people to sniff out treason and soundly stomp out the little brush fires before a Fascist New Order emerges.
Should I apologize for my cautious optimism? NO WAY! I am just trying to put a little balance in this thread. It's threads like this that make the DUmmies laugh at us, and think they have succeeded in scaring all conservatives to cowering in fear in a dark corner.
OK, now donning my flame-proof suit.
“Remember Bidens comments about something happening within 6 months and Americans not liking the response.”
Corsi and WND are not my favorite sources either, but we do have the text of the bill right in front of us this time. I think you are on target in mentioning Biden’s warning. The Zero administration probably expects that the economy will tank completely later this year and there is precious little they can, or will, do about it. If this happens to coincide with, say, the Iranian nuclear attack that I now regard as inevitable, life could become very dangerous indeed for anyone associated with the “peace” movement, liberal politics, or the media left in general. Hastings’s bill could well be an attempt to prepare for this and protect the Zero’s power base from what could effectively be a mass uprising. This would not be against the government per se, but against the cultural forces who have brought us to this sorry state of affairs. The government’s involvement would result from the current administration’s political dependence on those very targets.
You said — “That said, but had processes, techniques, and methods in place to prevent another attack (within the law). I’m afraid that Obama will dismantle the protections that Bush put in place, making us all more vulnerable than we’ve been in the past.”
Back in 1998, I remember reading about the declaration of war upon the U.S. by Osama in Ladin. The overwhelming majority of the public didn’t know and didn’t care. And if they did know, they just laughed...
The ones who weren’t laughing were the experts and the military people and some others in government and in Congress, as they held hearings back then on the issue and said (in those hearings) that something needed to be done.
And about that time Steven Emerson and his information about the terrorists came out and he was literally “blackballed” from the news and was hammered on for being a hate-monger, against the “peace-loving Muslims” (which I hope people have finally changed their minds about that, by now...).
So, if there is any kind of problem, it’s a problem with the public and their *apathy* and *complacency*....
That will get them “dead” in short order.
You said it earlier, "The overwhelming majority of the public didn’t know and didn’t care. And if they did know, they just laughed..."
And that was because the MSM didn't tell them. And why didn't the MSM tell them? Because a Democrat was in the White House. The same MSM that made the homeless disappear until a Republican moved in in 2001.
So, the terrorist threat was non-existent until 2000, then it was over-hyped, propaganda, and election scare tactics from 2001-2008, and will disappear from public view again now that Obama is in the White House.
And once out of sight and out of mind, the public will go back to "didn't know and didn’t care. And if they did know, they just laughed..." until the next attack.
-PJ
If the public really did care about terrorism, then I would think they would make the religion of Islam illegal in this country and shut down every mosque in this country — because the religion is really an “under-cover” government, disguising itself as a religion — designed for the express purpose of *overthrowing* other governments. And all the Muslims in the country right now are really *under-cover* agents and “advance-men” for the take-over of this country.
And that *ain’t no conspiracy talk* — as you can “tune in” to any mosque around the world and hear for yourself... LOL...
This is an old ping list, so some may not be interested in this.
We have those already. They were built in 1998 and 1999 to deal with civil unrest anticipated in Y2K.
Ripe for photoShopping.
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